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Audi 90qVRt...fresh powdercoat and polished stainless

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 10:20 pm
by Zerb
well, i thought long and hard after locking up my first 01E last fall at the track about what i wanted to do with my Audi. Sure, just rebuilding an 01E with a new 1-2 collar would be an easy task, then getting back to the track with my 2.0L 20v setup and seeing if i could better my track times. But in the end, i was bored...and when i first set out with this project some years ago the original GOAL was to go 10's on a true street tire at 135+, and i did that....twice. Sooooooooooo, the choice was made to sell off my 2.0L20v stuff, and put a VRfuckingT in this thing. Not many interesting pics just yet, but they will be coming...oh they will...stay tuned.


we have the first part i attained for this swap, a VR5 starter from ebay.uk....paypal sent over on monday morning, DHL pulled into work on Thursday, how's THAT for shipping. will this work with the 034 flywheel? I couldnt seem to find that answer, so for under $150 to my door, i figured that i would take the risk and find out.
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since it would be a sin to hack up and re-weld those motor mount brackets that hank so kindly swapped me for, and i didnt want to spend the money on delrin motorsport spec mounts...we made these beautiful teeth clattering little gems.
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Re: Audi 90...VRT time

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 10:28 pm
by chaloux
mosdef looking forward to updates and more progress. Woooooo!

Re: Audi 90...VRT time

Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 3:29 pm
by vt10vt
Looking foreword to this build :)

Re: Audi 90...VRT time

Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 6:39 pm
by amd is the best
W00t!

Re: Audi 90...VRT time

Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 10:42 pm
by Zerb
so, i got the adapter plate bolted up here after i removed the stock lower timing cover and bolted on the MK4 vr6 lower timing cover that i got from the local shops pick and pull yard for $20. with that lower cover there was no need at all to grind anything to get the adapter plate to fit onto the motor. then i got the VR5 started bolted up and patiently waiting for the flywheel from 034 to see if this starter will work, which will save me some loot from having to buy 034s starter, and SHOULD allow me to just bolt the motor into the chassis and not have to deal with notching the subframe for 034s starter to fit.

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Re: Audi 90...VRT time

Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 12:45 am
by loxxrider
Good work!! I love this car so much more now :)

Re: Audi 90...VRT time

Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 10:18 pm
by speeding-g60
so where is the 4cyl FW?

and i said it somewhere else so i wont say it here ;)

boredom is a MOFO innit?

Re: Audi 90...VRT time

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 12:50 am
by quattro
Is the vr5 Passat flywheel dual mass?

Re: Audi 90...VRT time

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 5:58 am
by Zerb
quattro wrote:Is the vr5 Passat flywheel dual mass?

I couldn't answer that question sir. I can peruse Etka later on and find out. Then again, the flywheel from 034 will be here today so we shall soon seen if this will work.

Re: Audi 90...VRT time

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 9:58 am
by my2000apb
quattro wrote:Is the vr5 Passat flywheel dual mass?

95% sure that is the case, yes

Re: Audi 90...VRT time

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 10:04 am
by Zerb
flywheel part number for the AGZ VR5 motor is....071 105 266, which looking at ETKA seems to be a dual mass flywheel.

Re: Audi 90...VRT time

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 10:08 am
by my2000apb
flywheel yet? lolz

Re: Audi 90...VRT time

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 6:09 pm
by Zerb
Well well well. A stock vr5 starter from across the pond. Does in fact spin 034s beautiful longi vr flywheel. And I am STOKED that I took the plunge and tried to see if this would work.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hyGwFjVVIs[/youtube]

Re: Audi 90...VRT time

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 6:33 pm
by speeding-g60
Zerb wrote:Well well well. A stock vr5 starter from across the pond. Does in fact spin 034s beautiful longi vr flywheel. And I am STOKED that I took the plunge and tried to see if this would work.

[youtube]http://youtu.be/5hyGwFjVVIs[/youtube]


let me fix that for you lil feller.....

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hyGwFjVVIs[/youtube]

Re: Audi 90...VRT time

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 6:46 pm
by Zerb
For those interested the part number for said starter is 012 911 023, its from a passat syncro, euro model only, vr5 motor, 97ish, AGZ VR5 motor. Bosch part number is 0001107070, but good luck finding a Bosch unit in the states. The VW number i bought from a dismantler on eBay and it was like $140 shipped to my door. this should allow for the motor to just be plopped right in the bay and no clearance should need to be made on the frame rail, as you do with the 034 starter. ill take some more pics of it from the other side of the trans adapter when im back in the garage, youll see that it 'hugs' the block much more, almost as if someone somewhere meant for this to happen, lol.

Re: Audi 90...VRT time

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 8:49 pm
by my2000apb
:)

Re: Audi 90...VRT time

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 10:52 pm
by mushasho
So are we going 12v, 24v, 2.8, 3.2, 3.6?

Re: Audi 90...VRT time

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 5:30 am
by Zerb
12v ain't no doubt about it!

Re: Audi 90...VRT time

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 7:38 pm
by Zerb
So. Motor is in. Sorta. The mounts we made are too short. I think my buddy musta measured the wrong dimension or some shit, not sure. Have him a stock mount and said....make this outta stainless please. Oil pan is hitting the subframe too. Which I didn't think would happen because its a toureg pan and I was pretty sure those bolted right in aside from just needing to be shortened height wise on the section that sits in FRONT of the subframe.
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Re: Audi 90...VRT time

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 8:20 pm
by my2000apb
pan/subframe shot?

and you buddy accounted for a hockey puck

Re: Audi 90...VRT time

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 8:29 pm
by Zerb
Blurry. But the effort was there.

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Looking closer. It may NOT be hitting the subframe. I just thought that what it must have been resting on since the motor mounts aren't in but the trans mounts are.

Re: Audi 90...VRT time

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 8:34 pm
by my2000apb
hard to tell, you can always trim a little bit of the webbing

Re: Audi 90...VRT time

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 8:41 pm
by Zerb
I think the issue is in the motor mount we made. That pic with the calipers measuring it its only 2" tall. Got a Delrin mount you can measure for me?

Re: Audi 90...VRT time

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 8:44 pm
by my2000apb
yeah gimme a few minutes

Re: Audi 90...VRT time

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 8:49 pm
by Zerb
:ty: