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URS4LA -- '92.5 UrS4 RIPieces

Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 11:08 pm
by PRY4SNO
Long backstory, so strap-in. haha. No, seriously.




Bought a Cyclamen Pearl/Ecru 1993 UrS4 with 267k km on January 2, 2013 from a good friend for a winter beater. It was a solid runner, but leaked PS fluid at about 1L/100km. :o Plus a laundry list of other issues, mostly electrical.

Purchase day. I also stored Gertrude, my ever faithful beater parts coupe, at his place since I didn't have the parking. Image
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So my buddy Kenny (morris400) clued me into a black on black '92-spec '93 shell where I might be able to score some parts. Turns out, I'd bought rear A8 calipers for my Cq off the owner (Rob aka quattro.pilot on QW) before. I totally forgot about how he'd windowed the block and had this car sitting at his friend Keegan's acreage.

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As it was, Rob didn't want to part the car any further than he'd already gone, so the PS system wasn't up for grabs on its own.

But!

The car had so much going for it that it was worth the price of entry. And the work involved to do the swap that followed. It showed more of the previous owners, both enthusiasts, than the 367k km on the clock. From what Rob told me, Mr. Pajak was the PO when he'd acquired this beauty. Though I have yet to confirm that tidbit.

For a mere $650, the car came with some choice parts like:

-- New radiator/expansion tank
-- New PS pump/pressure hoses and a working/non-leaking brake bomb
-- 034 trans mounts
-- Stage 2 Southbend clutch/PP
-- Front strut tower brace
-- Bilstein and H&R suspension, factory rear sway bar
-- quattro script rear window defrost, rear sunshade
-- heated rear seats
-- UrS6 interior trim (he didn't like the Elmwood)
-- ABS/Diff lock buttons, intensive washer sprayers
-- trip computer
-- spare hood/grille
-- Bosectomy, JL Audio mids/tweets
-- good rubber door trim
-- hardwired for radar detector
-- EGT probe ready for VEMS
-- Deatschwerk DW300 fuel pump & relay
-- recent fuel filter, trans/diff fluid
-- Earl's s/s brake hoses
-- very minimal spot rust


It didn't, however, come complete. So I rented a garage to do the swap. Uninsulated, un-heated. In the middle of the coldest winter in recent memory. With no washroom. :nuts: :boom: Desperate times = desperate measures lol

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So after working outside for 10h/day, I'd head over to the shop and put in 2-3 hours work until it was completed. Or stay until my beer froze. Then it was obviously time to go home. Garage in the middle between work and home, about a half hour either way.

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Things that needed swapped were:

-- motor, turbo
-- motor mounts
-- POS
-- ECU
-- exhaust
-- front calipers, f/r rotors
-- wheels/tyres
-- headlights
-- steering wheel, column trim
-- battery
-- CD player

I mangled the passenger rear s/s brake hose, and the small offset hard line (90˚-->90˚) nuts on the front calipers were worn out (read: rectangular), so had them replaced by local brake/hydraulic shops along the way.

Almost immediately after putting the car together (and also moving in the interim), I got a job up north. Had to mobilize quickly. So after countless curses, neck cricks and snapped drill bits later, I gave up on salvaging the stock exhaust. (The old studs were baked in good and had to be sawzall'd off... so plan a) drilling out the bolts, quickly gave way to plan b) new exhaust) There was a decent deal on a slightly dented gen4 Stromung in Chicago with a solenoid operated cutout valve, but when I factored in shipping and wait time it wasn't in the cards. So I went to ABC Muffler and Hitch as recommended by Kenny. Waited around (like 4-5 hours) for them to do it, but they did a pretty decent job, considering. Single 3" cat-less exhaust from the DP back. Mandrel bends at the back. Crush bends off the DP. Went that route to keep costs down. Later, when I upgrade the DP, the crush bends will be replaced with mandrel goodness. Went with an offset-in/centre-out Magnabro. Sounds subdued, yet throaty. I like it; my friends all say it should be louder haha. Exhaust wasn't free at $680, but still only 3/4 price of that Stromung in Chi-town and no shipping/exchange costs.

My first cruise around after the exhaust I ended up having a good long pull with a dark blue C32 AMG (W203) with at least an exhaust and wheels. I firmly stayed ahead from a roll, up thru the top of 4th gear where I backed off. :drive: :flag: When we both turned off and hit a red light together, he was impressed... wearing a big smile and thumbs up. So was I; the POS/COP were dying and I was getting misfires. Before I'd traced down the cause, I'd swapped the coolant temp sensor and swapped over the vac lines to silicone for good measure. Eventually, I went with a p'n'p 2.0t harness from Norbitron off Motorgeek and some black TFSI coils sourced locally. All in the COP swap cost about $275. Pretty good deal compared to the usual vendors.

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Randomly found some D2A8 wheels for $200 locally. Which was good. Rob wanted his 17x8" Avus wheels back for his 6-sp C5S6 Avant, bastard. Haha. Had my machinist make up some hub spacers (copied from my H&Rs off the coupe haha), 8mm for the rear and 10mm up front. $80 for both sets. Then some wheel studs and nuts locally for $100. Finally, new 245/40-17 Michelin Pilot Super Sports from tirerack.com, since the local tire shop (KalTire) couldn't get my size before TR could deliver. So $1000 plus ~$250 for mount/balance later, I was ready to rip shit up.

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Car is pretty well sorted, being (basically) stock.

Right around this time, my brother (All_Euro) came up north on a weekend and we installed a new Pioneer DEH-X8600BS CD player I'd gotten on sale for ~$200. The parts car's radio was locked, so what the hell, right? That was fun, and I bought some new tools. Unfortunately, ever since, the trip computer, coolant temp gauge and passenger mirror haven't worked at all (used to tilt just fine going into reverse). So that's up on the list. I've since purchased a pair of amps (about $225 total) to run the mids/tweets and two (OLD) 10" Phoenix Gold subs I have. Just need to build a box to fit in the trunk first. Then I'll dig into everything again. Hopefully figure out why the 12v outlets/lighters don't work in the mean time... it'd be nice to be able to charge my phone.

Also picked up a set of headlights with euro lenses, clear corners and 55w HIDs from Rob for good measure.
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Couldn't get the HIDs to fire, thinking ground issue. Know they ought to work, since they are relayed and worked fine for Rob when he had the car. Just have to figure out where to best ground it all out first. Running the old halogens with the clear corners for now.


After that, I clayed and waxed the exterior. Then restored the rubber exterior trim to look new with Turtle Wax trim stuff, went with it because it was pigmented vs. the other kinds.
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After three generous coats...
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Next up was the leather. Did a lot of reading online, and chose Leatherique, largely due to the guys on S2Forum who call it "leather food," and the before/after results I'd seen on the autopia.com forum. It's originally conceived as a saddle cleaner, and is water based vs. petroleum distillates.
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In the meantime, I've been fussing about with the steering column trim and a sport wheel. Just need to pick up my purse and hack into the hub so the clock spring works. Or maybe I'll just use the UrS6 wheel in the Cq, and my non-airbag S2 wheel in the UrS. haha



Finally, can't complete this post without saying thanks to those who really helped out and stepped up to the plate when I needed a hand on this (impromptu) project. In no order obviously!

:ty: :ty: :ty: to Rob, Kenny, Colin, Monty, Lars, Sterling, Ian, Wayne, Adam and Tyson for all the help when I was in need. I know you're all busy with your lives and the last thing any sane person wants to do is pull wrenches or diagnose issues in a garage colder inside than the weather is outside. During a freakishly cold Canadian winter. :beer:

Re: URS4LA -- '92.5 UrS4 Daily Driver/Winter Beater

Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 11:41 pm
by PRY4SNO
For reference:

Outstanding maintenance:
-- Timing belt/wp service (due 375k km... ish)
-- Valve cover gasket and spark plugs
-- auto check
-- coolant temp gauge
-- passenger mirror
-- lube door hinges/catches
-- install carbon trim
-- find ground fault in stereo (IE. alternator whine)
-- steering column trim
-- radio adapter to CD player, USB --> armrest
-- MFTS connector on harness side
-- cruise control

Mods Planned:
-- Ecodes/HIDs
-- UrS6 sport steering wheel conversion
-- Sub box w/ two 10" subs, amplifiers
-- boost gauge
-- glass sunroof swap
-- black headliner & trim
-- roof rack
-- Boost/coolant hoses
-- HPR/Apikol mounts
-- 6sp 01E, Southbend stage2 clutch/PP
-- 986/C2 caliipers & A8 rotors
-- catch can
-- IMS billet k26, GenesisII 500cc injectors, EFI-Express/PRJ Motronic tune
-- 3" downpipe w/ EGT bung
-- Aquamist w/m injection
-- FMIC
-- Euro Bumpers
-- UrS6 tail lights
-- Respray

Re: URS4LA -- '92.5 UrS4 Daily Driver/Winter Beater

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 4:16 pm
by All_Euro
Those shots of that temporary garage make it look pretty nice... the real charm was inside with the drifting snow and electrical chords in frozen pools of water... I think I like my wallless / roofless garage better actually.

Your seats sure cleaned up nicely though - now get on that steering wheel ;)

Re: URS4LA -- '92.5 UrS4... RIPieces

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 5:27 pm
by PRY4SNO
Annnnnnnd we're done here.



Was sent home early from yesterday work on account of the nasty snowstorm. Was going well below the limit (70-80 km/h in a 100 zone), keeping my distance behind the traffic in front of me. The blowing snow was so bad it was a white out when someone would pass by or you'd get too close to the vehicle ahead. Could barely see the lanes, or where the ditch began.

As far as I remember it, I went into a small dip in the road and the lady must not have seen me, or my brights, or my fogs, and proceeded to turn left. Smack dab into the front left fender of my car as I was going along at about 80km. I didn't even see her.

I figure that was a saving grace; as I didn't have time to react or go tense, and was relaxed at the moment of impact.

The safety officer from work was minutes behind me. She took the following pictures and texted them to me later that evening. She figured my legs were broke or pinned by the dash, but I popped out and walked over to the lady who hit me to check on her condition. Before long I was being taken to the University hospital by way of ambulance and she walked off... to the back of a cruiser I'd assume/hope.

A busted nose/torn septum, dogs-breakfast for a lower lip and 40 some stitches later, I was happy to have come out relatively unscathed. Save for some bruising/pain on my left elbow, right ankle and neck... I count my blessings and appreciate my luck.

These cars are solid, gentleman.

See here the results, and always remember to wear your seatbelt!!! :flag:


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Re: URS4LA -- '92.5 UrS4 Daily Driver/Winter Beater

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 5:31 pm
by pilihp2
WOW. Glad you're alright! Sad to see the state of the car.
No airbag deployment? yeesh.

Re: URS4LA -- '92.5 UrS4 Daily Driver/Winter Beater

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 5:31 pm
by ringbearer
Holy shit!

Glad you are okay!

Re: URS4LA -- '92.5 UrS4 Daily Driver/Winter Beater

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 5:36 pm
by morris400
Probally for the best...pics show your low on coolant...would have over heated anyway lol.

Glad you ok buddy. Cars come and go.

Re: URS4LA -- '92.5 UrS4 Daily Driver/Winter Beater

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 6:13 pm
by PRY4SNO
pilihp2 wrote:WOW. Glad you're alright! Sad to see the state of the car.
No airbag deployment? yeesh.


Thanks man, me too. She was just starting to get back to respectable, but that's the way of the world.

Next one will obviously be a step up.

ringbearer wrote:Holy shit!

Glad you are okay!


Thanks, a split second different and it could have been tragic.

morris400 wrote:Probally for the best...pics show your low on coolant...would have over heated anyway lol.

Glad you ok buddy. Cars come and go.


For sure. If you happen to know anyone looking for heated rears... ;)

Re: URS4LA -- '92.5 UrS4 Daily Driver/Winter Beater

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 7:42 pm
by chaloux
Holy ballsack!! I agree, glad you're alright. Nasty. The other person OK?

Re: URS4LA -- '92.5 UrS4 Daily Driver/Winter Beater

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 8:01 pm
by scubagli
Dang mangled, glad your ok.

Re: URS4LA -- '92.5 UrS4 RIPieces

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 8:42 pm
by loxxrider
Damn! Glad you're OK! I can't believe the airbag didn't deploy either... These cars are indeed solid though. Feel better soon!

Re: URS4LA -- '92.5 UrS4 RIPieces

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 9:56 pm
by EDIGREG
Wow that is a hard hit. Not sure I've ever seen a C4 A-pilar/roof that badly bent. Glad you are OK.

Re: URS4LA -- '92.5 UrS4 RIPieces

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 11:58 pm
by chaloux
92 had procon10, hence no airbag

Re: URS4LA -- '92.5 UrS4 RIPieces

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 12:22 am
by varia
chaloux wrote:92 had procon10, hence no airbag


i cant see the relation between procon10 and airbag, my cq had both.

Re: URS4LA -- '92.5 UrS4 RIPieces

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 6:18 am
by chaloux
Sure your cq did, but the s cars didn't. Unless I'm wrong, which happens all the time

Re: URS4LA -- '92.5 UrS4 RIPieces

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 6:21 am
by chaloux
Yup, I'm wrong. Dave has 92 listed as having airbag steering wheel

http://forums.quattroworld.com/s4s6/msgs/168566.phtml

Re: URS4LA -- '92.5 UrS4 RIPieces

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 10:32 am
by Marc
condolences for your loss (that will assuredly not buff out), but definitely glad flesh and bone came out ok.

Re: URS4LA -- '92.5 UrS4 RIPieces

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 11:19 am
by UrSobsessed
DAMN! I always knew these cars were solid, but your pics are real proof! Glad you're ok!

Re: URS4LA -- '92.5 UrS4 RIPieces

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 1:48 pm
by PRY4SNO
Thanks guys, I'm definitely counting my blessings.

Going to go do my statement in the next couple days and recover my stuff from the car... probably scoop a few parts that are worthwhile (ISV, FSI coil pack/harness, etc) if I'm able.

After the dust settles I hope to have a decent cheque to put toward a better replacement.

Re: URS4LA -- '92.5 UrS4 RIPieces

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 2:03 pm
by lucidmatt
holy shit, glad you are relatively OK... this winter has been horrendous for accidents, yours is the worst I've seen by far. These cars are surely tanks.

Re: URS4LA -- '92.5 UrS4 RIPieces

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 7:36 pm
by PRY4SNO
Yeah, a split second difference and she could have hit my door... scary to think about actually.


Stitches came out today :)

Also learned something new yesterday when I went to recover my property from the wreckage.

I was actually hit by two vehicles; the first impact that I knew about, and again on the passenger side front fender from oncoming traffic! Was pretty surprised to learn that tidbit.

And I found my Fat Max tool box was broken in the trunk. That's a bummer, as it'll go against my house/contents insurance (along with my driving glasses that are MIA). Not sure if I'll claim or not, seems like a hassle.