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Re: 1990 CQ- Paint on Friday-Broken front Subframe)-;
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 4:26 am
by Kuma
BTW, i need to order that goopy shit for my tail lights. my tails are shorting out whenever it rains...
Re: 1990 CQ- Paint on Friday-Broken front Subframe)-;
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 5:49 am
by Mentosman42
We use dum-dum at work if a car is missing the weatherseals.
Also when you deleted the rear wiper, is that bondo thick? there is a good chance that it is going to swell and you will see the outline of where you bondo'd.
If its steel you really need to weld in a patch, if its fiberglass you need to glass in a patch. Bondo should only be layed very thin, anything excessive and it will probably swell. We see it all the time when cars come in that had work done at shoddy shops.
Re: 1990 CQ- Paint on Friday-Broken front Subframe)-;
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 7:39 am
by loxxrider
That's funny, I use dum dum (butyl rubber tape) on my BMW where it has rusted through the trunk gutters. Works really well!
Re: 1990 CQ- Paint on Friday-Broken front Subframe)-;
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 7:54 am
by Kuma
Mentosman42 wrote:We use dum-dum at work if a car is missing the weatherseals.
Also when you deleted the rear wiper, is that bondo thick? there is a good chance that it is going to swell and you will see the outline of where you bondo'd.
If its steel you really need to weld in a patch, if its fiberglass you need to glass in a patch. Bondo should only be layed very thin, anything excessive and it will probably swell. We see it all the time when cars come in that had work done at shoddy shops.
really? crap. well, this is for temporary even so. Ill have to take care of it then.
The bondo fills the hole but there is a piece of Duct Foil tape. i can take off the tape sop that it has room to expand. i dont think its fully filled up. i think its just a ball of paper underneath the bondo thats on top.
ill have to ask my buddy what he did. i wasnt watching.
do they sell Dum Dum at the parts store?
Re: 1990 CQ- Paint on Friday-Broken front Subframe)-;
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 10:36 am
by PRY4SNO
With your wandering idle... clean your ISV really well with WD40 or brake cleaner (ensure what you use is non-silicone).
Or adjust your throttle limit switch... locate your TB, and manually open/close the throttle butterfly valve. You should hear a click when it hits the end of it's sweep. If not, you need to readjust the switch. FYI it doesn't need to be removed completely, just the two screws loosened and tightened again when the switch is repositioned. Worked well for me!
Re: 1990 CQ- Paint on Friday-Broken front Subframe)-;
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 10:42 am
by Kuma
looks like i am going to have to check that out after i pick up my kids from school.
ill let you know what happens
Thanks!!
Re: 1990 CQ- Prep for paint! Sanding and primer-Paint soon!
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 10:57 am
by zarati
EasyTarget wrote:Body filler is not meant to be used to fill holes. It has different expansion rates than the material it is applied on, and I can guarantee that you will be able to see that hole shortly after it is painted. I would recommend that you chip that filler out and use a two part epoxy resin to fill the hole, then finish with a glaze of filler. Also, I wouldn't suggest using spray can primer if you ever plan on having a quality urethane paint applied over it, as the products are not compatible.
But the car looks good, and I'm excited to see the finished product!
:stupid:
Spray cans are for Lawn Furniture. Not for cars.
If you are going to sand and spray a car, Go to a proper auto body store and spend the $$ and get the gear you need.
Good body work is expensive. Most of that is the time it takes, but its also materials. Good paint, good primer, costs money. And its well worth it.
Do you have an aircompressor? IF so, get an air dryer for it and get some real primer. Even a $50 gun can shoot primer well and frankly, if you are careful, you can even shoot paint with a cheap gun but you are more likely to get runs. You are putting some good effort into this, I'd hate to see it go to waste due to use of shoddy materials.
Re: 1990 CQ- Paint on Friday-Broken front Subframe)-;
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 11:00 am
by zarati
scubadave wrote:I don't believe so. I have a couple extra so don't fret just yet. As long as its the hitatchi components that is. I may need to start charging you for all my spare parts though. I even have that spare intake boot I repaired if you need it.
Indeed. Not swapable. Totally different setup although the resistance measurements are similar. I looked at putting a 3b Intake on my 7A. I figured it would work based on the measurements I took, but the 3b sensor wont bolt up to the 7a intake.
Re: 1990 CQ- Prep for paint! Sanding and primer-Paint soon!
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 11:03 am
by zarati
90quattrocoupe wrote:Kuma85 wrote:plus, i hate the color white.
Too bad. Alpine is a rare color.
Greg W.
Then why did you buy a white car?
Sorry, I'm not a fan of changing car colors except for full on caged track/race cars. Its so hard to do it right.
Re: 1990 CQ- Prep for paint! Sanding and primer-Paint soon!
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 11:05 am
by zarati
Kuma85 wrote:awesome... Discovered a GIANT crack in the front subframe.
One last post. ;-)
Are you sure thats the subframe thats cracked? If I'm looking at the photo right, thats directly above the downpipe just before the Cat. There is a heat shield there that protects the passenger side tranny mount. To me that crack looks like its the heat shield and not the actual subframe. Could just be the angle of the photo though.
Re: 1990 CQ- Prep for paint! Sanding and primer-Paint soon!
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 11:18 am
by Kuma
zarati wrote:EasyTarget wrote:Body filler is not meant to be used to fill holes. It has different expansion rates than the material it is applied on, and I can guarantee that you will be able to see that hole shortly after it is painted. I would recommend that you chip that filler out and use a two part epoxy resin to fill the hole, then finish with a glaze of filler. Also, I wouldn't suggest using spray can primer if you ever plan on having a quality urethane paint applied over it, as the products are not compatible.
But the car looks good, and I'm excited to see the finished product!
:stupid:
Spray cans are for Lawn Furniture. Not for cars.
If you are going to sand and spray a car, Go to a proper auto body store and spend the $$ and get the gear you need.
Good body work is expensive. Most of that is the time it takes, but its also materials. Good paint, good primer, costs money. And its well worth it.
Do you have an aircompressor? IF so, get an air dryer for it and get some real primer. Even a $50 gun can shoot primer well and frankly, if you are careful, you can even shoot paint with a cheap gun but you are more likely to get runs. You are putting some good effort into this, I'd hate to see it go to waste due to use of shoddy materials.
its getting REAL primer the spray was just to cover up the bare metal. My buddy is going to be painting the car with a compessor and a gun. im paying out for some good stuff. I think,lol. i still have to go and pick up the paints and base coat and clear.
in a year or so, im going to have all the windows taken out and the rust repaired around the windshield.
i am picking up matte clear though. I am really hoping this turns out well.
I appreciate your concern though!
Re: 1990 CQ- Paint on Friday-Broken front Subframe)-;
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 1:17 pm
by frostyflax17
got a picture of the color you had in mind? matte dark green would be interesting.
after the amount of sanding i did last night just on the mirrors, i believe a chemical strip is in order for the amount of pitting there is in this paint. Then a nice respray next year.
Re: 1990 CQ- Paint on Friday-Broken front Subframe)-;
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 3:33 pm
by Kuma
I sanded with 180 grit to get all the clear coat off.
80 on the rusty spots then 180 on top
Re: 1990 CQ- Paint on Friday-Broken front Subframe)-;
Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 2:57 pm
by Kuma
double post.
Re: 1990 CQ- Paint on Friday-Broken front Subframe)-;
Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 2:58 pm
by Kuma
Re: 1990 CQ- Paint on Friday-Broken front Subframe)-;
Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 3:01 pm
by Kuma
i want these wheels to run on my car.
i miss my 200 20v wheels.

Re: 1990 CQ- Paint on Friday-Broken front Subframe)-;
Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 3:15 pm
by arc1013
i've got too many sets of 200 20v wheels... (2) i think between the 8 there's at least 4 really nice ones
you gonna run 5lug?
Re: 1990 CQ- Paint on Friday-Broken front Subframe)-;
Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 3:19 pm
by Kuma
yeah, i want to run 5 lugs, but if i have to i will run adapters if i dont have the time to swap out the hubs and such. it will happen though.
Re: 1990 CQ- Paint on Friday-Broken front Subframe)-;
Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 6:00 pm
by frostyflax17
you can't use adapters from 4-5 lugs unfortunately. 1 of the bolts will interfere with the other unfortunately
Re: 1990 CQ- Paint on Friday-Broken front Subframe)-;
Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 6:42 pm
by SapperMike
Well seeing as how I now live directly across from Stephen we will probably do a five lug swap. I'm looking to get into a 90q or mk3 Jetta myself here soon, I sold my A6 and fricken regret it!
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Re: 1990 CQ- Paint on Friday-Broken front Subframe)-;
Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 6:41 am
by Kuma
Re: 1990 CQ- Paint on Friday-Broken front Subframe)-;
Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 7:50 am
by zarati
Kuma85 wrote:http://www.latemodelrestoration.com/item/LRS-1007SCM/1994-04-Mustang-Silver-Sc-Style-Wheel-17X9" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
i like these i think.
I like the wheels.

But can you run 5 x 4.5" Bolt pattern? That's slightly larger than 5x112. I think I hears someone talk about using Wobble bolts, but even then, I thought you said you were staying 4-bolt. There is no ways those will fit with a 25mm adapter.
Re: 1990 CQ- Paint on Friday-Broken front Subframe)-;
Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 8:04 am
by Kuma
id run 5x114. in fact a lot of wheels i like are 5x114. I dont really want to use an addapter cause wouldnt that be adding weight to the axles and such?
i dont have to stay 4 bolt, but for temporary until i get all the parts i need and such, ill run some fun wheels.
plus, its just a want, i dont HAVE to have new wheels. it would just be nice and i need to repair things on the cq before i go buying silly stuff.
Re: 1990 CQ- Paint on Friday-Broken front Subframe)-;
Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 10:51 am
by zarati
I dont get it.
You say you would run 114. Yet, how on earth do you intend to run 114 without running a spacer?
You would have to run a spacer.
Re: 1990 CQ- Paint on Friday-Broken front Subframe)-;
Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 10:54 am
by Kuma
Kuma85 wrote:id run 5x114. in fact a lot of wheels i like are 5x114.
* Pause *
I dont really want to use an adapter *in general* cause wouldnt that be adding weight to the axles and such?
i dont have to stay 4 bolt, but for temporary until i get all the parts i need and such, ill run some fun wheels.
plus, its just a want, i dont HAVE to have new wheels. it would just be nice and i need to repair things on the cq before i go buying silly stuff.