The Project Pad

Staying rolling on this. Went home a couple hours early yesterday to try and get ahead of the storm to stay on track for engine break in this weekend. It sort of worked, I got home just as it was starting to accumulate.

With the flywheel on and the engine bolted to the trans I got the cam/crank timing set and the belt on, the distributor in and set about where it needs to be. I wrapped up the coolant system, just needs fluid, got the fuel system closed up, and a few other misc things. Looking pretty good for tomorrow, assuming I can find the right capacitors I'm missing on a board here at work. If not I might go with "close" values and hope it works.

Getting home



Timing set, fuel system buttoned up, distributor in, getting close to ready for first start



This is when I decided to let the snow fall and work on it when it's at least not actively covering anything exposed



So I went inside and moved on to electronics stuff. Since I'm going to break the engine in on the old MS setup I needed to build another coil driver circuit as I destroyed mine and wanted to make this more temporary so I built this guy.



And started working on my main extra board. This is mostly for pullup circuits, 5x for COP's that you can see already built, the two fuses for Fuel injector 12v+ and the 2 amp fuse for the ECU. This should allow me to keep most of the extra circuitry off the MS board to help with noise issues the 2.2 boards are prone to. I added another 5v regulator so that this board has it's own separate 12v, 5v, and ground plane. I still need to move/add a couple circuits but you can at least see it taking shape.



Thanks for reading along!

We got an electrical wizard over here... Lol. Nice work Shawn. you're pretty much there! I'm hoping to complete a clutch and flywheel swap today/tomorrow so I'll be thinking of you working outside. I'm in a shop thankfully because it's -30 here

nice progress!!!

its back above 0 degrees , time to get back to work

chaloux wrote:We got an electrical wizard over here... Lol. Nice work Shawn. you're pretty much there! I'm hoping to complete a clutch and flywheel swap today/tomorrow so I'll be thinking of you working outside. I'm in a shop thankfully because it's -30 here

Hey thanks Haha I'm jealous, once it's driving I should be able to finish most of the work at work.

my2000apb wrote:nice progress!!!

its back above 0 degrees , time to get back to work

Pshh, is MD.. cold but never got below 0. I'm sad to admit, I've lost a little of my VT cold tolerance, but I layer up.

And then...

Like I have any room to talk

DE80q wrote:And then...

Like I have any room to talk

And then, like 6 hours of circuit building and wiring later, MS is up and running, reading RPM's and all inputs/outputs but after charging the battery I only got to try at 10pm Sunday after working outside again all day and was pretty burned out to be troubleshooting by then. Monday/Tuesday it was well below zero with a crazy windchill and yesterday a pipe burst in our upstairs shower so had to leave work to deal with that and finished up last night when I got home. I have plans tonight but tomorrow, hopefully, she will LIVE!

Very nice. Sucks to have a pipe burst though, BTDT. Will be nice to hear that 20v roar again. My plan is on sunday to go work on mine some more.

DE80q wrote:Very nice. Sucks to have a pipe burst though, BTDT. Will be nice to hear that 20v roar again. My plan is on sunday to go work on mine some more.

I have to do a window regulator in this girl's civic but depending on where the 200 is at I might come up to help out. If it's running the drive up to York would perfect for ring seating, then finish it off with a trip out to the DC area to finally see Rob

That would be cool. I think I will be tieing up a lot of little things, filling all the fluids, and making sure that I have enough battery cable.

Sat I think I will be hanging out at work, and making parts for He who shall not be named

So I'm pretty frustrated. The car is wired, my timing is right, the plugs are wet and a plug grounded to the VC sparks as it should. I don't know where to go next, I've tried about 100 different physical trigger angles and I'm not even getting a sputter at any of them. The coil has 12v on the right and the BIP373 attached to the left pin, and I have good power everywhere. For some reason my tach wire was causing a draw, so I snipped that, but Megasquirt is reading RPM's and sending a pulsewidth and adjusting the timing angle so, I'm a little lost. That and the weather has been so terrible, snow and freezing rain all last weekend, freezing cold all week and it's been raining for the last two days. I don't really know where to go next, I guess I'll keep trying the trigger angle?

Suggestions??

Well I had a shit ton of problems starting mine. Grounds, timing, fuelling all played a part. It just took a lot of patience. I'm sorry I can't give you more specific advice but it's a process. Is it flooding or anything? Any smell of fuel? Plugs are wet so you know it's getting fuel. If you're getting spark it's gotta be timing. Can the 20vt be 180° out like the 20vt?

Yeah I'm guessing my distributor timing is just off still. I'm 100% on my physical ting, going to do some crank angle measuring and hope that's it.

It's a balmy 40* and overcast but zero precipitation so couldn't be a better day relative to the last two weeks.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCr4RS5PYaM[/youtube]

The old 20v still sounds pretty damn good

Oh, and it was a trigger angle issue. Good weather and some patience and I got it figured out pretty quick

Sweet!!!

God I need to get EFI set up

AngryTaco wrote:God I need to get EFI set up

Is it set up yet!?

Woot! Glad to see this is back on the road. I love how it sounds.

gotta love that 20vt burble.

Yeah sounds awesome! Love it. Is it fast?

pilihp2 wrote:Sweet!!!

DE80q wrote:Woot! Glad to see this is back on the road. I love how it sounds.

Justin517 wrote:gotta love that 20vt burble.

chaloux wrote:Yeah sounds awesome! Love it. Is it fast?

Thanks guys!! It will sound even better once I get the V-Band from the DP to the exhaust sealed up, but it definitely still has that sweet 20v exhaust note. And Matt, not fast yet, that was at the end of a 30min break in drive, lots of partial throttle excel and engine braking, you can hear the BOV "honk" as I try to bleed off some extra boost pressure that was building too fast I finally retorqued the ARP's last night and got it all back together just in time to not have time to go tuning, but that's the plan for tonight. It was running decent @cruise and light accel but under boost, especially very much boost, AFR's were dropping to 9-10 so definitely needs a retune up there.

AngryTaco wrote:God I need to get EFI set up

From all your "NEED MOAR VEMS" and "VEMS PREP" talk I half thought you already had it set up and running. But I guess you're still on CIS? Better get on that then.

sounds dirty, nice job with the trigger fix.

themagellan wrote:sounds dirty, nice job with the trigger fix.

Thanks! We have to renew our friendly drag rivalry here once the tracks open

Tightened up a few bolts that were loosening up last night, had a real bear of a time with some on the downpipe, I'm probably going to pull the intake manifold Saturday to adapt the setup for a VR6 throttle body and make sure everything is nice and tight again. At that point I'll add my 830cc injectors and, if I can get some other things squared away, my Walbro 400

Going to get my divider board built before the weekend so I can hopefully scope that Saturday while I'm at the shop. Then, if that is giving me good signals, COP is only a bracket and a little more wiring. I ran the coil fire wires in the harness so all I need to do for them is wire them into my aux DB connector and build the coil harness. I need to slow down a little bit and take care of a bunch of nagging issues though, so those things so this will probably wait another week.

Took a drive last night, boost leak limited boost to 5psi but it felt good at that. I was trying to get some tuning done but gave up pretty quick, driving in the dark, logging and tuning is just way too slow to be worth it so hopefully I'll get someone to drive for me sometime soon.

Thanks for reading along everyone!

You know Im down to drive for you again. Maybe this weekend when we get together. Do a little driving, a little tuning, and then a little work on the bandit.

vt10vt wrote:

themagellan wrote:sounds dirty, nice job with the trigger fix.

Thanks! We have to renew our friendly drag rivalry here once the tracks open

Tightened up a few bolts that were loosening up last night, had a real bear of a time with some on the downpipe, I'm probably going to pull the intake manifold Saturday to adapt the setup for a VR6 throttle body and make sure everything is nice and tight again. At that point I'll add my 830cc injectors and, if I can get some other things squared away, my Walbro 400

Going to get my divider board built before the weekend so I can hopefully scope that Saturday while I'm at the shop. Then, if that is giving me good signals, COP is only a bracket and a little more wiring. I ran the coil fire wires in the harness so all I need to do for them is wire them into my aux DB connector and build the coil harness. I need to slow down a little bit and take care of a bunch of nagging issues though, so those things so this will probably wait another week.

Took a drive last night, boost leak limited boost to 5psi but it felt good at that. I was trying to get some tuning done but gave up pretty quick, driving in the dark, logging and tuning is just way too slow to be worth it so hopefully I'll get someone to drive for me sometime soon.

Thanks for reading along everyone!

I think you may put my 20v down once this is all broken in