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Re: Hanks URQ 2.6L Tall deck

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 8:56 pm
by chaloux
lol, excellent!

Re: Hanks URQ 2.6L Tall deck

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 11:02 pm
by OOOOGT

Re: Hanks URQ 2.6L Tall deck

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 2:45 am
by fasterthenrs2
nice ;D

Re: Hanks URQ 2.6L Tall deck

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 5:08 am
by EDIGREG
:thumbsup: :D

Re: Hanks URQ 2.6L Tall deck

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 5:15 am
by a_CQ
Kids...:P

Re: Hanks URQ 2.6L Tall deck

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:22 am
by UrSobsessed
d8-)

Re: Hanks URQ 2.6L Tall deck

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:49 am
by Audilard
I was down at Hank's shop when he did that and it was echoing off all the buildings! Everywhere Hank went it wasn't ever less than full throttle. No wonder he went through 3 tanks in 3 days!!! :thumbsup: 35 psi in the HTA35R and E85 in a 2.6L engine....a beast!

Re: Hanks URQ 2.6L Tall deck

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:16 am
by nsimps
Thanks to Hank I now know what it probably would've been like to ride in a Group B car. The torque that thing produces is absolutely amazing.

Re: Hanks URQ 2.6L Tall deck

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 12:47 pm
by Hank
No problem on the rides. Darin is right, I beat the living piss out of the car all weekend, put 3 tanks of e85 in it at 22 gallons+ each time, and the only real issue was a slightly leaking valve cover gasket that was putting a little bit of oil into the spark plug hole. I could probably use a new expansion tank cap too, but give the thing a break, it was putting up with donuts and 0-90-0mph blasts up and down the parking lot all afternoon. None engine related, the passenger door latch was a POS all weekend.

Red rock was a blast trying to lose, and then trying to catch Jimmy Green in his Yellow 'nana. With another 240+ fellow in the passenger and with Jimmy solo, we were just about even in 3rd gear with the same gear ratio at 4500rpm roll ons as you would expect with basically the same turbo, but I could grab him a few car lengths in 4th down at 3500 rpm rolls pretty easily. Think my 2.6L still spools about 300-400 rpm sooner than his, but the top end of his setup is really nice. You can feel when the valve opens and lets hell loose. I don't look down at the dash too much anymore while driving at 35psi, but my passengers commented that I was shifting at around 7200 all weekend long. I finally paid attention a few pulls, and sure enough, my brain must be communicating with my butt dyno telling me the power is dropping off, and more meaty power/torque is available if I shift. This makes me long for hte 1.03 housing I have to see how it behaves. My hunch is that it will make the 2.6L spool identical to a spool valved 2.3L of Jims, with teh same top end. Pretty impressive for the spool valve if you ask me. Makes me long for the best of both worlds.

Didnt get on the dyno this weekend, but Jim and I both agreed that we probably both have cars hovering around that 550whp mark untuned, and probably more like 625 when tuned on the dyno. Hopefully Rudy or Jim will post up some vids from the chase around redrock.

Very happy overall with the state of the car. Can't wait to get it on the track

Re: Hanks URQ 2.6L Tall deck

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 12:59 pm
by Hank
Also, my GPS showed 270 miles of total driving over the weekend, which puts me at a wholesome 4.08MPG.. That is how hard this thing was beat on this weekend. 1600cc injectors over pressured to be more like 1800cc injector at peak 92% duty cycle means almost 8.2L per minute at full throttle.

Re: Hanks URQ 2.6L Tall deck

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 1:05 pm
by Audilard
Hey, what was the coolant drip coming from or was that something else?

Re: Hanks URQ 2.6L Tall deck

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 1:53 pm
by ringbearer
almost 8.2L per minute at full throttle.

:)

Re: Hanks URQ 2.6L Tall deck

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 3:26 pm
by popdemonic
that's sweet Hank!

Re: Hanks URQ 2.6L Tall deck

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 3:39 pm
by Colin2750
This is probably the most fun thing I've ever been in...

Re: Hanks URQ 2.6L Tall deck

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 5:21 pm
by chaloux
ShavedQuattro wrote:Red rock was a blast trying to lose, and then trying to catch Jimmy Green in his Yellow 'nana. With another 240+ fellow in the passenger and with Jimmy solo, we were just about even in 3rd gear with the same gear ratio at 4500rpm roll ons as you would expect with basically the same turbo, but I could grab him a few car lengths in 4th down at 3500 rpm rolls pretty easily. Think my 2.6L still spools about 300-400 rpm sooner than his, but the top end of his setup is really nice. You can feel when the valve opens and lets hell loose. I don't look down at the dash too much anymore while driving at 35psi, but my passengers commented that I was shifting at around 7200 all weekend long. I finally paid attention a few pulls, and sure enough, my brain must be communicating with my butt dyno telling me the power is dropping off, and more meaty power/torque is available if I shift. This makes me long for hte 1.03 housing I have to see how it behaves. My hunch is that it will make the 2.6L spool identical to a spool valved 2.3L of Jims, with teh same top end. Pretty impressive for the spool valve if you ask me. Makes me long for the best of both worlds.

Didnt get on the dyno this weekend, but Jim and I both agreed that we probably both have cars hovering around that 550whp mark untuned, and probably more like 625 when tuned on the dyno. Hopefully Rudy or Jim will post up some vids from the chase around redrock.


Were you both running 35psi? Those are some great first hand impressions with the cars side by side. It'd be great to see the exact same turbo on a stroker and then on a QSV'd car. So best of both worlds = about a 900rpm improvement? That's a hell of a lot more turbo for the same curve. 550whp is pretty impressive for not being tuned.

Also, LOL at your mileage. Wow. I want to see vids of the banana vs urq!

Re: Hanks URQ 2.6L Tall deck

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 5:40 pm
by foxbat
Ok, ok, ok.....since everyone seems to be talking about next year already, I propose a drag race at midnight mayhem to settle all this Green vs. Iroz unsettled business.

Re: Hanks URQ 2.6L Tall deck

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 5:57 pm
by audifreakjim
Audilard wrote:Hey, what was the coolant drip coming from or was that something else?


That was pee from the passenger seat.

Re: Hanks URQ 2.6L Tall deck

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:06 pm
by pkw
holy crap! you guys both running e85 then? Jim, how much boost?

Re: Hanks URQ 2.6L Tall deck

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:17 pm
by audifreakjim
I was on pump gas and water meth injection at 31 psi. My car is fast, but Hanks car is brutal. There is no doubt he has more torque, but I think I might have him on the top end so it makes for a fun comparison. He got a pretty good jump on me in the 4th gear pull. While I was waiting for the turbo to spool, he was motoring away with his torques. The dyno would have been great to have, but we would probably still be there on it. I think it would have made an already crazy day into an even more exhausting day.

It would be fun to drag race, but I am just not into it. I have actually welded my clutch to the flywheel once screwing around launching the car. It took a rather high speed highway pull in 5th on the brakes, with the clutch in, at full boost to break it free.. I would rather torture my drive line drifting around turns :)

Re: Hanks URQ 2.6L Tall deck

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:23 pm
by Mcstiff
BBQ2013 AutoX!

Re: Hanks URQ 2.6L Tall deck

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:14 pm
by pkw
wow, you said it was really fast with the new turbo but it did not sink in until you said maybe stronger up top than Hank's. Hank's with the old engine reminded me not of a car at all, but actually, the same personality as a sport bike....more like an evil toy than any type of transportation. wow Jim. nice cars guys.

Re: Hanks URQ 2.6L Tall deck

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:27 pm
by Hank
Yeah, Jim said it well. 2 completely different power curves. Mine is a rip the tires loose when the turbo spools at around 3800, and then really starts to fall off at around 7000 rpm. Jims car spools slightly later but has a wicked "vtech" effect when the 1.06AR happens around 4300. Then it has a wicked rush to redline. When we raced with 3rd gear pulls, I shifted to suite my powerband and he shifted to suite his. Would have love to put the 1.03 tial setup to see how it changed it when running with Jim

You can kindof see the way my car makes power in this vid.. Granted, I am battling a strange issue where oil is getting past the catch can into the intake tract. Compression is solid at 190psi, leak down is awesome across the board ect. On this pull with my neighbors 180whp race liter bike, It started to break up as massive amounts of oil were dumping into the intake. I think the sump is just overfilled, as my dip stick isn't perfect on my Eurovan to Longitude setup. I knew there were going to be some sideways action, so I put an extra half quart in. I don't think my breather pickups on the oil pan are liking that, especially near the rear plug where the oil dumps in from the oil pan via the distributer. I'll do some mods and get him later this week :)


Link to video

This is all untuned setups too. Just road tuning and listening for det. Much more improvement on both setups to come!

One thing is for sure, Jims car is glued to the road. I am hoping he posts up some of his Red Rock romps. That thing just sticks. It is super smooth. I think I am done with solid mounts, even it it means revising my intake to clear the hood and go back to some different mounts.

Re: Hanks URQ 2.6L Tall deck

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:58 pm
by audifreakjim
I have some vids, but they are not as fun as I was expecting. Let me try and put something together. It will be lame compared to Darin's!

Re: Hanks URQ 2.6L Tall deck

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 9:40 pm
by quattro87
:lol: Well that would be a hard act to follow.


Guys, I got to tell you that Hanks car is more impressive driving it. Today I went down to the shop since I was just trying to recoup and really didn't feel like doing much. Hank started the car and told me I needed to take it for a drive. I knew it was fast, but was really impressed at how hard it pulled in third and forth gears. It pulls scary hard at 120 the only difference is that the tires aren't breaking loose. Most definitely put a smile on my face!

Re: Hanks URQ 2.6L Tall deck

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:21 am
by Wizard-of-OD
That weather and those mountains in the background are making me want to change zip codes ....stat