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Re: Pat's 1983 URQ Alpine white #603 , 20V in progress
Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 3:00 pm
by Afterthought
Well I could but I hate to cut up that manifold and de-value it. I don't know if its something I can weld.
I think I'll start with getting the two flanges and then from there see how it looks with the 90 DEG. TB rotation. I'll most likely have to relocate the IAT sensor as well if I want the larger FMIC up there.
What I need is around this size, but rated for more than 22 PSI . And ideally 2.5" depth
https://www.mishimoto.com/mishimoto-universal-intercooler-small.html
Re: Pat's 1983 URQ Alpine white #603 , 20V in progress
Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 6:50 pm
by Afterthought
Re: Pat's 1983 URQ Alpine white #603 , 20V in progress
Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 9:38 am
by the german
Nice work! Did you machine the bits or get them made somewhere in town? Your aluminum welding is looking good

Re: Pat's 1983 URQ Alpine white #603 , 20V in progress
Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:22 pm
by dougkehl
Those welds do look nice! Glad to see that's sorted out. I don't think the intercooler should be too bad, obviously if you exit out the bottom side of the intercooler. Granted being there in person to look at it could tell a very different story to the picture.
Re: Pat's 1983 URQ Alpine white #603 , 20V in progress
Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:20 pm
by Afterthought
Kirk the bits, I got the two that I used from Issam/INA as he already had a patern drawn up; the third square looking one was from 034 but it has extra holes in it as it goes with a VR6 throttle body adapter
The intercooler, I'll have to do some thinking about it . I'm going to have to make a whole new end tank so anything is possible I guess . I'll get some better pics soon to show the issue. Basically I used the front mount to keep the piping as clean and short runs as possible and I don't want to add a 180 degree loop on there .
Re: Pat's 1983 URQ Alpine white #603 , 20V in progress
Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 3:27 pm
by Afterthought
Re: Pat's 1983 URQ Alpine white #603 , 20V in progress
Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 6:26 pm
by Afterthought
Pat's 1983 URQ Alpine white #603 , 20V in progress
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 9:48 pm
by Afterthought
Pat's 1983 URQ Alpine white #603 , 20V in progress
Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 6:25 pm
by Afterthought
One more piece of the puzzle .
This is one of the hassles involved with running the Indy turbo, the Inlet is made to accept a restrictor so there’s not an area to clamp on a hose like most .
This Inlet will allow me to bolt on a filter . There are other ways to do this faster but this will look cool and be removable


Will have one more cool adapter that is in the works .
Basically the piece I made to rotate my TB 90 degrees but in one piece , machined . One flange with 8 holes and not quite 90 degree rotation .
Since all space is valuable I can shave about 3/4” off that dimension between the tb and manifold .
Re: Pat's 1983 URQ Alpine white #603 , 20V in progress
Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 8:54 pm
by the german
Sweet! You going to make a few and sell them? ;-)
Pat's 1983 URQ Alpine white #603 , 20V in progress
Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:12 pm
by Afterthought
the german wrote:Sweet! You going to make a few and sell them? ;-)
Well I could but I’m not sure anyone but me will need it .
There was a shop on eBay that was selling those EFR 7163 Penske turbos and I saw them on there just random chance . Saw the price and picked one up. But now that I’m running this turbo I find myself wishing I’d picked up another one , because if this one goes bad I’d be screwed, my exhaust manifold is now flanged with this random specialty flange that is specific to only these turbos . I have searched and never seen any more for sale other than some guy on the Subaru forums who picked up all of the remaining ones and doubled the price and sold them all.
I guess if the turbo went bad I could save my exhaust housing if they are the same but I’d have some work to do .
Maybe someone would need or want the TB rotation flange ... I’m just tryin to maximize my space . It’s not done yet but close

I’m guessing the average person . Unlike my dumb ass .... would just get a normal exhaust housing , have a normal intake manifold , cut the core support , and put the intercooler in a place where it fits . Ha!
Re: Pat's 1983 URQ Alpine white #603 , 20V in progress
Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 12:51 am
by the german
Lol got it- didn’t realize the well had run dry on those Penske cast-offs. That’s a bummer. Kinda wish I had bought one or two as well, even though I have no use for them right now.
Re: Pat's 1983 URQ Alpine white #603 , 20V in progress
Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 10:54 am
by Afterthought
the german wrote:Lol got it- didn’t realize the well had run dry on those Penske cast-offs. That’s a bummer. Kinda wish I had bought one or two as well, even though I have no use for them right now.
You are thinking about it backwards . You get the turbo —> then you need to find a use for it —-> next thing you know your coupe is TT monster .
Or a guy with your skill level , take the turbo , find a suitable engine , build a tube frame around it .
They will be back up again at some point I’m sure . They were around $600 but the price has gone up now . I just wanted an extra - so I could have it rebuilt . I called a few places and haven’t found anyone that rebuilds EFRs yet
Re: Pat's 1983 URQ Alpine white #603 , 20V in progress
Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 8:42 pm
by Afterthought
Made a little progress but not much .
Worked on the intercooler a little , started making the first end tank . Things started out well but I didn’t get very far .
Weld rod pattern outline

Bent the end tank outer piece


Filler pieces made




Everything was looking real good . Not professional but OK , and when I was trying to smooth out the inside of the pipe using a carbide bit it grabbed and trashed the smooth finish on the outside of the end tank . It’s all getting painted but it bothers me

Re: Pat's 1983 URQ Alpine white #603 , 20V in progress
Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 10:24 pm
by PRY4SNO
Yeah carbide bits can dig in really easily, especially on soft metal like stainless or aluminum. If you have any flapper wheels (for a die grinder) they do the job very nicely.
Re: Pat's 1983 URQ Alpine white #603 , 20V in progress
Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2017 2:48 am
by the german
You are thinking about it backwards . You get the turbo —> then you need to find a use for it —-> next thing you know your coupe is TT monster .
Or a guy with your skill level , take the turbo , find a suitable engine , build a tube frame around it .
They will be back up again at some point I’m sure . They were around $600 but the price has gone up now . I just wanted an extra - so I could have it rebuilt . I called a few places and haven’t found anyone that rebuilds EFRs yet
It’s like you’re reading my mind.

Pat's 1983 URQ Alpine white #603 , 20V in progress
Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2017 3:25 pm
by Afterthought
Re: Pat's 1983 URQ Alpine white #603 , 20V in progress
Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 12:39 pm
by audifreakjim
Check your gas first, I have had bottles fail to shield properly even with a few hundred psi in the tank. This can make you want to kill yourself! Put the tig on more negative balance to clean that area up. I just go over it repeatedly until it starts to pool up without blowing shit out of the weld. I like to do this on cast aluminum along the weld before I actually weld it. If you can get a copper sheet behind there to back it that would help a bunch.
Looking good!
Re: Pat's 1983 URQ Alpine white #603 , 20V in progress
Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 8:28 pm
by alxdgr8
Small curved cores exist for bikes, but a bit too much curve for most car applications

Re: Pat's 1983 URQ Alpine white #603 , 20V in progress
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 7:54 pm
by Afterthought
audifreakjim wrote:Check your gas first, I have had bottles fail to shield properly even with a few hundred psi in the tank. This can make you want to kill yourself! Put the tig on more negative balance to clean that area up. I just go over it repeatedly until it starts to pool up without blowing shit out of the weld. I like to do this on cast aluminum along the weld before I actually weld it. If you can get a copper sheet behind there to back it that would help a bunch.
Looking good!
That’s a good idea I guess I have never tried to just sweep over it and clean it first .
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Pat's 1983 URQ Alpine white #603 , 20V in progress
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 8:01 pm
by Afterthought
alxdgr8 wrote:Small curved cores exist for bikes, but a bit too much curve for most car applications

Yeah I thought about trying to give the core a slight bend , just didn’t want to crack or stress anything and I’m not sure if it’s necessary. It would only give me more clearance though.
At this point I have it set to where it will fit between the headlights and behind the grill with a slight modification to the grill. That gives me a good amount of clearance on the engine so that if it rotates up , it will still clear . This is without scooting the engine back any yet .
So now that all this is done , I used this cheaper core to do all the fitup and testing. If I get the car running and everything works well then I would consider getting a higher quality core , 27” x 8” x 2.75.


Got a hose for the turbo Inlet

And the big score


Clearance with the IM

And lastly another small piece I’m prototyping . A little velocity stack for the turbo Inlet

Pat's 1983 URQ Alpine white #603 , 20V in progress
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 2:39 pm
by Afterthought
Pat's 1983 URQ Alpine white #603 , 20V in progress
Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:22 pm
by Afterthought
Re: Pat's 1983 URQ Alpine white #603 , 20V in progress
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:45 pm
by Namreg Rac
Paint that intake the same as the valve cover once you get done.
Re: Pat's 1983 URQ Alpine white #603 , 20V in progress
Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2017 10:14 pm
by Afterthought