The Project Pad

fiddle sticks that electronic crap. someone can always argue the results. just test and tune night for what like 20 bucks. a launch that is good but soft enough to not break anything, and then look at the trap speed. it is more solid than ANYTHING except for MAYBE a dyno. anything other than trap can be argued including a dyno.

I have dynolicious on my ipod touch, its pretty accurate... I did my dodge ram 2500 hemi and sorta guessed at the weight and drivetrain loss (7600 lbs with me in it, about right from when I scrapped with it, and 20% loss, no idea what it really is) and got 310hp... I think its rated at 345hp.

I have to hitup EPL once I get the efi on the 200 or turbo the E34... then I'll be able to do a real comparison. others that have done so claim they are usually within like 5-10 hp of actual dyno #s

ya, I agree that trap speed or real dyno is the best way to go. I'm worried about even a soft launch roasting the stock clutch though. Its been feeling rather soft lately. Engages at the last moment possible typically.

Don't worry, my mission is to get some kind of numbers asap. Just bare with me! Definitely getting close to rod replacement time Chris. Then again, my butt dyno could be all wrong. It feels strong, but its deceiving because of how smooth the power is. Could be making a lot more than I think or a lot less. I dunno. Like I said, its a rocket when I brake boost so that should be a better indication.

Smoothness>peak power.

I am actually starting to like having an auto 20vt.

Chris go put an, approx 5mm washer, in between the clutch master and its mounting bracket (one per mounting screw), that will make the pedal feel better which will make you feel better.....thennnnnnn, go launch it. : )

ChrisAudi80 wrote:Smoothness>peak power.

I am actually starting to like having an auto 20vt.

hey, can we get this guy banned?

Beats having NO 20vt...

I used an app on android to test my Audi 100.
There you can set start speed and end speed. But I don't know the accuracy. It seems quite right

Hey Chris, what fuel pump are you running?

Stocker for now. Actually its from a V8Q but its the same as the 200 20v pump. I thought I had a bad pump but really didn't so I got a V8 one at the junkyard. Now I've got two!

I plan to use a Weldon for later though. They are easily rebuildable, can handle over 100psi pressures for long periods of time, do fine with alternative fuels, made in the US, and best of all they are overkill. Overkill is how I like to do it when it comes to stuff that can break.

The stocker is an 040, right? They flow identical to an 044 just designed to sit in the tank rather then the inline right?

The weldon sounds like a great idea, but big $$$!

It is indeed an 040, but I don't think it flows quite like an 044 does. Could be wrong though...that would be sweet if so, but all of the info I've gathered here doesn't agree.

**edit** I just did a quick search and the pumps are both listed at 80gph or 300lph but the 040 is at 6.5 bar and the 044 is at 5 bar. That maybe where the confusion comes from. Another thing that might tell you which flows more is that the 044 has an M12 outlet and the 040 is M10.

Just for the record (so I don't forget) I talked to Weldon today. I'm going to need one of their 2015 pumps ($700) and possibly another pump of some sort feeding it or parallel) in order to hit the 1600cc's I want out of my FIC1100's at or around 95psi BASE PRESSURE. The 95psi will only be for the track, so I need a pump controller in order to not burn up the pump while on the street at lower base pressure. Also need one of their nice regs which will be first on the list of things to do when I get my intake manifold.

All of this to get about 800whp I think (1000 chp). The guy I talked to seemed to think I was going to have to run an 88mm turbo to hit that lol. I sure hope not!

It's certainly going to take a lot of air to get that kind of power. More then you're H1C can provide I'm pretty sure. Why do you plan to push the base pressure so hi to achieve that flow rather then just getting a larger injector and running a more moderate base pressure? Also, thats a lot of fuel...do I smell E85?

Yeah, H1C is just to hold me over until the bottom end gets built. Then its BIG turbo time. I REALLY want to try the new 67mm borg. Once the engine is built and an 01E is in, its just a new tube header and some minor fabrication to put the 67mm on.

I'm pushing the base pressure so high simply because of the injectors. These FIC 1100's are like stock injectors as far as idle and driveability. They can also withstand huge base pressures and get to 1600+cc's (around 1625 at 95psi and 1665 at 100psi) by my calculations at least. I'd rather do that than get 2000cc injectors that don't have the same low pulse width response characteristics. I may have to upgrade past the 1100's anyhow, but my calculations show that to get 1000 chp, the above base pressure and injectors should be sufficient. I think it should be a pretty elegant and very functional setup, but I can't say for sure until I try it.

I don't think there is any E85 in my future. C/Q16 or whatever when I really want to turn it up and 93 pump all other times. I'd definitely need 2000+cc injectors for E85 at the power levels I want. I'd like to see 600whp on pump if its possible. I think with a really nasty 67 like the borg and reving past 8500 that shouldn't be a problem. Again, I don't know for sure; these are just my thoughts or speculations.

Good idle makes plenty of sense! I wonder if VEMS can control staged injection...? Could run another rail and another set of injectors if possible. Keeps the idle nice and can really flow some fuel. Could get quite complicated under the hood but a serious fuel system is necessary for a serious 200

There are going to be some nasty 200's around!

i was just thinking the other day that most of the 20vt 200's have been cannibalized, and the remaining cars are all getting big turbos. Sweet!

The 200 to me is such an awesome car! I can't imagine all the people out there just gutting them for their precious powerplant. I have a brand new TDI and a stage 3 B5 S4 in my driveway and would choose the 200 over them both. Big turbo 200 FTW!!!

i have sent two to the graveyard, but they were both pretty shitty. I wouldn't cut up a nice one.

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