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Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - More VEMS Prep

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 12:16 pm
by AngryTaco
Yeah and no codes. Have you ever had a high lift cam with CIS? If I throw an MC2 cam back in, I wont have issues

Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - More VEMS Prep

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 10:24 pm
by AngryTaco
Got the B6 back together and running today. Giving it back to the owner tomorrow :)

Managed to even break the stupid snapon #10 RIBE headbolt tool. Shattered into a bajillion pieces

Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - More VEMS Prep

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 2:38 pm
by AudiSport4000
AngryTaco wrote:Yeah and no codes. Have you ever had a high lift cam with CIS? If I throw an MC2 cam back in, I wont have issues


I never did, mainly because I didnt want one :) Car was perfect for daily driver use!

EFI EFI!

Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - More VEMS Prep

Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 4:42 pm
by AngryTaco
Ok people. I need some powerflex and motor mount sales so I can buy VEMS!!!!!

Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - More VEMS Prep

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 12:42 am
by AngryTaco
Arggggh. While the dodge is in the shop getting the midpipes fabbed up, I started tearing off the passenger strut to finally fix the damn bad hub once and for all. But nooooo, the bastard strut nut doesnt want to cooperate......ugh. I really need an electric impact gun.

Once the hub is all buttoned up, all I'll need to finish the front suspension is some 325# springs and some urq revalved HD bilsteins

Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - More VEMS Prep

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 12:26 pm
by AngryTaco
Finally got a good hub with a good bearing installed into the passenger tower. Now I can FINALLY go and get a damn alignment

Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - More VEMS Prep

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 12:43 pm
by DE80q
Yeah... not looking forward to that when I get it done. The rear is way out, and the front has a ton of new parts. I'm sure nothing is even close to what its supposed to be lol

Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - More VEMS Prep

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 12:46 pm
by AngryTaco
just point everything to the left and make a stock car out of it

Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - More VEMS Prep

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 12:58 pm
by DE80q
AngryTaco wrote:just point everything to the left and make a stock car out of it

Is that what you are going to do with the truck? :rofl:

Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - More VEMS Prep

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 1:09 pm
by AngryTaco
hell no, that thing is going to be a road course monster

Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - More VEMS Prep

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 9:10 pm
by AngryTaco
So started playing with the VEMS software today to familiarize myself with it......holy crap is it different vs my Dodge tuning software. This is going to take some time. Good thing I have another few months before I'm ready to even buy the ECM

Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - More VEMS Prep

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 2:47 am
by DE80q
Yeah, I said the same thing when i first looked at the MS tuner studio. Lots of different things to .monitor and change. Should be interesting.

Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - More VEMS Prep

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 3:46 am
by scubadave
yeah, it takes a while to figure out where everything is and then you have to remember that for next time. it takes some messing around with, but with friends that know how to help and some direction from Marc, its not too bad. He has helped me out a ton and I hav'nt called him hardly at all. it really comes down to having a solid base tune that you can start from, after you get all the basics dialed in like setting TDC for your timing. There is heaps of stuff to mess with that I have no idea what it will do, or how it will affect the car. all in all, I'm glad he includes tuning with the purchace of the ECU.

If only the community college offered a course on tuning with Vems. it would take a whole 1/4 to get through everything and be sufficient. But it would be one hell of a fun class!

Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - More VEMS Prep

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 1:34 am
by AngryTaco
Well did Taxes tonight......$2040 back!!! Guess who is getting VEMS in the next month?!

At least congress got the "American Oppurtunity Tax Credit" right

Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - More VEMS Prep

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 11:07 am
by 85oceanic
Frick ya dude. make it happen!

Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - More VEMS Prep

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 2:06 pm
by AngryTaco
hmmmm....or do I invest in a TIG welder for HPR? Or finally finish the front end on the dodge!? OR buy new tires for the dodge!? SO MANY CHOICES!!

Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Which Fuel Inject

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 2:24 pm
by AngryTaco
Ok everyone. I need some information from yall.

How much fuel pressure are you guys normally running? I have to decide how big of a fuel injector I need to buy. The ultimate final goal is 525 wheel hp. So roughly 630 crank hp or so. I'm thinking the 1100s chris sells would be sufficient. But I'd rather calculate my needs first

Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Which Fuel Inject

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 3:16 pm
by chaloux
Just make it easy and get as big as you can afford

Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Which Fuel Inject

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 3:23 pm
by AngryTaco
well problem is I only want to buy ONCE. I still have to buy the VEMS ecu, the LS2 Coils from varia, possibly a harness, fuel injectors, fuel pressure reg, and a bunch of other misc crap. After that is all done, I have to send the urq cam off to be reground, buy new lifters, etc etc etc etc.

buy my mounts

Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Which Fuel Inject

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 12:05 am
by 85oceanic
Personally I'm running a 4 bar FPR for now. Once I go E85 I will need to step up my game to around 6 bar of pressure.

Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Which Fuel Inject

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 5:50 am
by amd is the best
85oceanic wrote:Personally I'm running a 4 bar FPR for now. Once I go E85 I will need to step up my game to around 6 bar of pressure.


Why do you plan to run such a high base pressure?

Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Which Fuel Inject

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 12:19 pm
by PRY4SNO
AngryTaco wrote:The ultimate final goal is 525 wheel hp. So roughly 630 crank hp or so. I'm thinking the 1100s chris sells would be sufficient. But I'd rather calculate my needs first


I think 630hp roughly = 600cc injectors... so buy the 1100s and be prepared for corn. haha Like Matt said, get the biggest ones you can afford that will still idle smooth.

amd is the best wrote:
85oceanic wrote:Personally I'm running a 4 bar FPR for now. Once I go E85 I will need to step up my game to around 6 bar of pressure.


Why do you plan to run such a high base pressure?


Better atomization?

Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Which Fuel Inject

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 1:30 pm
by AngryTaco
Yeah I'm going to have to run E85 minimum. On the track, since I have easy access, I'll run 112 octane, and possibly e98 or 114 race fuel for max powah!

I mean hell, I'll be running 10.5:1 compression too

Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Which Fuel Inject

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 7:57 pm
by amd is the best
6 bar of base pressure is 87psi. Add 20 or 30psi of boost on top of that and your looking at 120psi of fuel pressure. Not many pumps are even tested that high and most will run out of steam by that point.

Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Which Fuel Inject

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 8:04 pm
by AngryTaco
My stock fuel pump is running over 120psi right now on the CIS system. Then again, I think the most fuel being allowed to move is a total of 660cc/min due to the fuel dizzy being the limiting factor