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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 10:55 am
by Derracuda
Jonathan wrote:So, the bores are in a zig-zag pattern, like the VR but to a much, much lesser degree?
no, they have a standard bore line up, but the 4.2 uses the same physical block dimensions as the 3.6. so, when there's not enough block material for the larger bores, what to do? space the cylinders out a little from each other.
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 6:07 pm
by 32vquattro
derracuda wrote:Jonathan wrote:So, the bores are in a zig-zag pattern, like the VR but to a much, much lesser degree?
no, they have a standard bore line up, but the 4.2 uses the same physical block dimensions as the 3.6. so, when there's not enough block material for the larger bores, what to do? space the cylinders out a little from each other.
I understand the difference between the pt and abh, i just don't understand why the abh isn't symmetrical. What ever was done to the left bank, would have been done to the right bank, yes?
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 6:14 pm
by Derracuda
i would probably say yes, but there's the oil and water passages that were probably shifted and or blocked for flow characteristics from side to side via the gasket layout. that's probably why they are R and L specific.
Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 11:48 pm
by sha-d
make an account just to comment on your build.
A+
i wish i had the brains, tools, time, and money for this type of work lol..
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 2:24 pm
by Marc
sha-d wrote:make an account just to comment on your build.
A+
i wish i had the brains, tools, time, and money for this type of work lol..
Thanks! I would say I'm pretty happy with how everything turned out but as with any good project its never really "finished".
I'm really looking forward to the 4.2 install to see what kind of power I can pick up vs. the 3.6
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 2:30 pm
by Twisted5000
a4kquattro wrote:sha-d wrote:make an account just to comment on your build.
A+
i wish i had the brains, tools, time, and money for this type of work lol..
Thanks! I would say I'm pretty happy with how everything turned out but as with any good project its never really "finished".
I'm really looking forward to the 4.2 install to see what kind of power I can pick up vs. the 3.6
I second that! When do you expect to do it Marc?
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 2:31 pm
by Marc
Twisted5000 wrote:a4kquattro wrote:sha-d wrote:make an account just to comment on your build.
A+
i wish i had the brains, tools, time, and money for this type of work lol..
Thanks! I would say I'm pretty happy with how everything turned out but as with any good project its never really "finished".
I'm really looking forward to the 4.2 install to see what kind of power I can pick up vs. the 3.6
I second that! When do you expect to do it Marc?
heads are on the engine, just not torqued down at the moment. Its intended as a winter project, so definitely by spring time.
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:02 pm
by jay54f100
Come on spring. I want to see this thing racing again.
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 8:18 am
by Quattro Krant
Can't wait to see this beast in the flesh at Carlisle Marc.
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 8:23 am
by Marc
Carlisle was a hell of a lot of fun last year. I think I drove Brian's S6 there last time. That weekend happens to fall on my birthday as well. Yet more excuse to drink myself stupid
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 8:33 am
by Quattro Krant
a4kquattro wrote:Carlisle was a hell of a lot of fun last year. I think I drove Brian's S6 there last time. That weekend happens to fall on my birthday as well. Yet more excuse to drink myself stupid
Thats right, drink and drink and drink more. Then, I'll have to reluctantly drive your car :wink:
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 6:55 pm
by Marc
torqued the head studs and cam caps down tonight. Also modified the tool I built to rotate the cams at the back of the heads (little slot at the back of the cams) to be a bit stronger.. with the stiffer valve springs it was bending the metal at the end of the original one I built!
Next step is to really think out my drain locations on the block. My turbo drains that I setup on the 3.6 work fine, but the problem is that I need another good drain location for crankcase oil return. I've got a few spots on the block in mind.
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 7:07 pm
by fasterthenrs2
He is back a life again :-D
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 6:54 am
by Zzak
a4kquattro wrote:Carlisle was a hell of a lot of fun last year. I think I drove Brian's S6 there last time. That weekend happens to fall on my birthday as well. Yet more excuse to drink myself stupid
I intend to go this year, hopefully we'll meet up.
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 6:59 am
by death 4kqt
I would really like to meet up with you guys down there. Hopefully everybodys project cars get ready by then
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 7:13 am
by Quattro Krant
death 4kqt wrote:[/quote]
I would really like to meet up with you guys down there. Hopefully everybodys project cars get ready by then
[/quote]Mine isn't even started yet, but, I'm going to have 40 hours per week open in my schedule :frustrated: :frustrated:
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 7:17 am
by death 4kqt
Quattro Krant wrote:[/quote]
death 4kqt wrote:[/quote]
I'm going to have 40 hours per week open in my schedule :frustrated: :frustrated:[/quote][/quote]
damned economy, ill probably be right there with you within the next year :x
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 7:33 am
by Marc
death 4kqt wrote:[/quote]
Quattro Krant wrote:[/quote]
death 4kqt wrote:[/quote]
I'm going to have 40 hours per week open in my schedule :frustrated: :frustrated:[/quote]
damned economy, ill probably be right there with you within the next year :x[/quote][/quote]
:(
Sorry to hear that guys. Are either of you good at PHP? I'm always looking for good programmers....
Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 1:31 pm
by Marc
decided to pull the motor this weekend. Just about ready to pull the 3.6 lump, should be out in another hour or two.
while disassembling I discovered a rather significant exhaust leak on the drivers side turbo. This *might* have affected spool on that bank
:vids:
http://www.facebook.com/v/60396647785anyway, back out to the garage..
Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 2:51 pm
by 3bAudios
:woowoo: exciting Marc that thing is going to be sick with the 4.2
Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 3:36 pm
by Derracuda
uhh.... turbo loose much?
man, i can't wait to see how that 4.2 does.
Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 3:37 pm
by SpoolinS6
a4kquattro wrote:while disassembling I discovered a rather significant exhaust leak on the drivers side turbo. This *might* have affected spool on that bank
Marc, when I took apart the white 2.6L stroker S4, my GT30R literally fell right off. Tony @ EPL told me when he was tuning it the car kept loosing power on the dyno, even when he raised the boost, wouldn't be surprised if you were loosing lots of power due to the same issue. Anyways, looks good!
Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 4:05 pm
by Marc
yeah, when you track high HP turbos the heat and vibration plays hell on the fasteners. I used high temp loctite on the fasteners, in this case it was the studs securing the turbo to the manifold that started to back out (the nuts were still securely in place). next step is some nice mechanical locking tabs I seem to recall seeing in the 034 motorsport catalog
Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 4:05 pm
by Marc
maybe some serrated edge nuts as well?
Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 5:16 pm
by Wizard-of-OD
Marc you going to eliminate that idler pulley up front?