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I see. I know that older cars without stand alone efi run shitty at idle when hopped up but just figured that with new fuel air control that wasn't an issue. I guess I got alot of learning to do about these things. By the way you car is definetely an inspiration.

Is it possible to control two different sets of injectors with a stand alone system? I know this would be budget limiting and sorry for the nube question but I would think you could get a second set to kick in for extra fuel and still be able to meter fuel acurately at low levels with the first set.

yes as long as you have enough drivers in your ecu like a IIC can run 4 coil and 8 injectors because it has 12 drivers. the 5 cylinder is tricky you can run 5 ignition coils and your left with 7 for fuel so you could run 5 independent then put two on one driver and three on another they would be batch instead of sequential. And you have to watch the injector independence's on the drivers with multiple injectors so not to burn up a driver

speeding-g60 wrote:

reckless1 wrote:wow? I gotta start slipping into high power thinking mode one of these days I guess. Why does it have to idle so rich?just cause of the injectors?

but the 1600cc injectors dont like to run under 1.7ms....

thus why i am already contemplating the ID 2200's. they have better controlability down low. its inherent in the Bosch injector that it is harder to control down low. in everything, there is give and take. so they give up some low down, but take things higher up top? make sense? this is, also, how i understand it to be. some cars are different than others, too. but idle is not a sacrifice i want to make.... thus injectors @ $235 apiece are in my sights.

the FWD VW Corrado they run, 934 WHP and 8.9X 1/4 mile, runs two rails with 1600cc injectors in each rail, on Methanol.

Im was thinking about those but 235$ a pop set me back instead went with 1600cc ones

"its a good thing my kid wasn't here, the car mighta fallen off and run his little ass over"

yes as long as you have enough drivers in your ecu like a IIC can run 4 coil and 8 injectors because it has 12 drivers. the 5 cylinder is tricky you can run 5 ignition coils and your left with 7 for fuel so you could run 5 independent then put two on one driver and three on another they would be batch instead of sequential. And you have to watch the injector independence's on the drivers with multiple injectors so not to burn up a driver

Huh, how would the batch injectors work out to add additional fuel at high power levels? Accurate enough?

is there pretty much a constant blue flame coming from the exhaust?

thats awesome.

loaded and leaving. no flame. condensate.

good luck guy, i'm gonna log into the remote tuning and watch :-D

good luck aaron! :bashtard:

speeding-g60 wrote:the FWD VW Corrado they run, 934 WHP and 8.9X 1/4 mile, runs two rails with 1600cc injectors in each rail, on Methanol.

Who runs this? Info?

Done on the dyno yet or what?!! :wink:

well, goals were all met.

show some restraint, and do not get BUCK WILD!!!!

made 615 AWHP and 439 AWTQ on low boost @ 30 psi in 3rd gear. we called it, as we had a specific set thing we were going to run tonight and we did it. funny, Kevin says on the second to last run; "we are at that point. wanna run 550 AWHP and sleep well tonight?" my reply was "lets do the 30 psi pull, and call it good."...... and >600 we went.



the last vid is my favorite.... its gonna be something else to drive i am certain. notice fireball shift? and the 4th gear cut fireballs under the car....



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good job

awsome dude no kabboooom finaly :woowoo: :woowoo:

Awesome! Now that's the power at the boost level i was expecting all along! So what made the big difference?

omg that last video was awesome! that thing is a monster! Congrats.

loxxrider wrote:Awesome! Now that's the power at the boost level i was expecting all along! So what made the big difference?

Headwork?

Congrats! That's big numbers!

:woowoo:

:woowoo: :woowoo: :woowoo:

Good work, Aaron. You are making me rethink my decision for the biggest possible core on the ATW setup. Any information about IAT numbers across the runs?

That last video made me giggle a little, even after the 8th time hah ....friggen awesome. I just need a good job now so I can buy stuff for my car! And BTW I was behind all those hate threads on Vortex...all of 'em.

LOL j/k I only use vooorhex to sell stuff, well mostly have people tell me they want something then never show up or show up without any $$ at all hahahaha

Yeah, that last video is wicked! I love how the guy gets a little nervous and grabs the door! :-D

fasterthenrs2 wrote:awsome dude no kabboooom finaly :woowoo: :woowoo:

BAHHAHHAHHA

Nice work man, you didn't notice but every time you brought some thing I thought, "I'm glad my car not done and I'm not dealing with that."

Well it goes both way I guess because seeing this makes me crazy and want to finish my car

Congrats! Happy all went well. 8)

Toxcheap wrote:Well it goes both way I guess because seeing this makes me crazy and want to finish my car

:slap: so do it!


my 16vT! will be done before yours!!! and you have all the parts