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Re: A tale of Rubí...PTE5862 .64 a/r Experiment... Fuel Pump
Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 7:17 pm
by DuBistS4
Damn those are clean! Seafoam?
Re: A tale of Rubí...PTE5862 .64 a/r Experiment... Fuel Pump
Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 7:27 pm
by DuBistS4
Weren't you running an 044?
Re: A tale of Rubí...PTE5862 .64 a/r Experiment... Fuel Pump
Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 7:59 pm
by mushasho
Was running 044 in Silvia(the 93 UrS4 on page 1)... But it lasted 3 months after purchased from 034.... So yeah, I've lost confidence in Bosch products in a way, specially after failed POR's as well... Anyhow, years have past and Bosch has yet to make any revisions to the 044 or produce any other enticing fuel pump alternatives while other companies keep cranking out options.
I'm convinced that I can run a one pump fuel system on stock lines for my goals. Might just need to bump up my circa*2005 Siemens Deka 60lb FI, but that will be later after I max them out on pump. Unless I find a set of ID's or FIC's on sale... I've heard of Ford Mustang EV14's working well too, but I think they're 550cc as opposed to my already 630cc setup...
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Re: A tale of Rubí...PTE5862 .64 a/r Experiment... Fuel Pump
Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 8:05 pm
by mushasho
DuBistS4 wrote:Damn those are clean! Seafoam?
Seafoam sucked for me...
Review my discovery
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Re: A tale of Rubí...PTE5862 .64 a/r Experiment... Fuel Pump
Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 10:52 pm
by Mcstiff
I don't know about fitting it but I've been thinking about that walbro "400 E85" also. Though I am tempted to put it in a surge tank.

Re: A tale of Rubí...PTE5862 .64 a/r Experiment... Fuel Pump
Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 3:16 am
by roortube
Defective parts happen. Bosch builds good stuff, on the whole. I would doubt that you'd have the same result with another pump. Look at how many 044s are in service vs reported failure rate. How did 034 handle it when you told them about yours failing?
Re: A tale of Rubí...PTE5862 .64 a/r Experiment... Fuel Pump
Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 11:05 am
by mushasho
roortube wrote:Defective parts happen. Bosch builds good stuff, on the whole. I would doubt that you'd have the same result with another pump. Look at how many 044s are in service vs reported failure rate. How did 034 handle it when you told them about yours failing?
This was the pump...

Has the Billet Ring for "factory basket install"


Since I purchased it from a project gone wrong, I wasn't the direct original owner, so nothing was done by 034...
The product was new never used when I purchased it 2nd hand. So technically it went straight from 034 to a someones basement, sat for 1 month then purchased by me when my OE Bosch pump crapped out at a dyno day...
Back story here[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkmXEAkNEHs[/youtube]
Yes that was a fuel pump removal gone wrong...
I feel like I could possibly still use that Billet Ring by pressing it out somehow. Maybe I should place this pump in a bucket & wire 12V to it and see if it comes alive again...
Re: A tale of Rubí...PTE5862 .64 a/r Experiment..Fuel Pump P
Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 7:28 pm
by mushasho
Re: A tale of Rubí...PTE5862 .64 a/r Experiment..Fuel Pump P
Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 7:38 pm
by mushasho
Oh and the last few bits needed for the head assembly...

Re: A tale of Rubí...PTE5862 .64 a/r Received, Head Rebuild
Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 9:27 am
by FRCFD5
Berry Nice!
Re: A tale of Rubí...PTE5862 .64 a/r Received, Head Rebuild
Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 10:04 am
by mushasho
Just got a call from the shop Head is ready for pick up...
Things Done:
Glass Bead Blast
Cut Valve Seats to Accommodate .5mm Oversized Valves
Back-Cut Valves
Deck Mating Surface
JetWashed
Assemble Valves, Retainers, HD Springs ect with New Valve seals from Top END kit...
I'll receive head and finish it up with my choice of Cams... AAN/AAN , AAN/7A or 7A/7A... thoughts

Re: A tale of Rubí...PTE5862 .64 a/r Received, Head Rebuild
Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 10:52 am
by Mcstiff
2x 7a intake cams

Re: A tale of Rubí...PTE5862 .64 a/r Received, Head Rebuild
Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 11:18 am
by mushasho
Mcstiff wrote:2x 7a intake cams

I thought the new secret sauce was 2x 7a exhaust cams...
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Re: A tale of Rubí...PTE5862 .64 a/r Received, Head Rebuild
Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 5:52 pm
by Mcstiff
mushasho wrote:Mcstiff wrote:2x 7a intake cams

I thought the new secret sauce was 2x 7a exhaust cams...
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Yeah, I was thinking inside out lol
Re: A tale of Rubí...PTE5862 .64 a/r Received, Head Rebuild
Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 6:17 pm
by mushasho
Well, as usual with any build, a hurdle has risen... The machine shop cutting the seats calls me in to have a visual inspection of what he's encountered with the head.
I prescribed cutting the OE valve seats to accommodate larger valves. They go ahead with one exhaust seat and finds that our seats are the same size as the valves and when cut the valve itself doesn't rest on the seat but protrudes into the aluminum portion around the seat as well.
Is this normal? Usually seats are larger than valves and allow for cutting but it doesn't seem like the case on our AAN heads... If I need to reseat the head, I'll just slap my old head on it and run a stock port as I'm not about to spend another grand on that...

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Left has aluminum blurring the seat line, Right shows where that line should be

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Re: A tale of Rubí...PTE5862 .64 a/r Received, Head Rebuild
Posted: Sat May 18, 2013 10:15 am
by DuBistS4
.5mm oversized? My valves went in with no issues like that, but they were only .5mm oversized.
Re: A tale of Rubí...PTE5862 .64 a/r Received, Head Rebuild
Posted: Sat May 18, 2013 10:25 am
by mushasho
Yeah +.5mm
Yours went in without a recut?
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Re: A tale of Rubí...PTE5862 .64 a/r Received, Head Rebuild
Posted: Sat May 18, 2013 11:24 am
by DuBistS4
No they were recut but everything fit correctly.
Re: A tale of Rubí...PTE5862 .64 a/r Received, Head Rebuild
Posted: Sat May 18, 2013 11:24 am
by S4Pirate
OB, I probably missed it, but where are these valves from?
Re: A tale of Rubí...PTE5862 .64 a/r Received, Head Rebuild
Posted: Sat May 18, 2013 12:24 pm
by mushasho
S4Pirate wrote:OB, I probably missed it, but where are these valves from?

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Re: A tale of Rubí...PTE5862 .64 a/r Received, Head Rebuild
Posted: Sat May 18, 2013 12:56 pm
by mushasho
Intake valves (10) F6030
- stainless steel dish face
- 32.5mm head diameter
- 6.96mm stem diameter
- 2.6mm tip length
- 95.5mm overall length
- 15? Super Flo. Radius Groove +0.5mm oversize
Exhaust valves (10) F6028
- stainless steel dish face
- 28.6mm head diameter
- 6.93mm stem diameter
- 2.8mm tip length
- 98.3mm overall length
- 22? Flo. radius groove +0.5mm oversize special alloy
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Re: A tale of Rubí...PTE5862 .64 a/r Received, Head Rebuild
Posted: Sat May 18, 2013 2:56 pm
by mushasho
Popped these in...

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Oil Squirters In

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Re: A tale of Rubí... Valve Cover
Posted: Sat May 18, 2013 7:16 pm
by mushasho
Finished the valve cover paint scheme...

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Re: A tale of Rubí...PTE5862 .64 a/r Received, Head Rebuild
Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 6:35 am
by da_trem
Odd..I'll be using the same brand/size valves as yours..my head is also at the machine shop this week. I'll let you how it comes out.
Looking at your projet makes me think of mine, almost the same build as yours!
Looking great!
-Dave
Re: A tale of Rubí...PTE5862 .64 a/r Received, Head Rebuild
Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 7:46 am
by mushasho
da_trem wrote:Odd..I'll be using the same brand/size valves as yours..my head is also at the machine shop this week. I'll let you how it comes out.
Looking at your projet makes me think of mine, almost the same build as yours!
Looking great!
-Dave
Thanks Dave.... The approach we're taking is perhaps the most sensible in terms of $$ vs Gain... This being said I might just go stock port on upgraded exhaust valves.
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