Julian's '91 200 20vt

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Re: Julian's '91 200 20vt

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I ordered some downpipe amenities today. New 3" v band couplers with integrated O2 bunghole and clamp since the stock hx35 v band is retarded (not my words). Wish I had an LSU 4.9 for my bung hole tho :(

As I said I'll be using the lower half of the old DP to create this new money-suck project. I still look forward to it :)

16 copper nuts INCOMING!
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1991 Audi 200q Felbaum'd
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Re: Julian's '91 200 20vt

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Ok I've ordered all the -4 AN feed line pieces and most everything else. I'm hesitant on the drain line order now tho.

I'm eying the -12 AN option but I think I'd have to use the summit 1/2" npt to -12 AN 45° fitting at each flange. I don't think I'll fit a straight fitting anywhere for that as you said Chris. Of course I forgot about the -3 AN restrictor idea when I got the feed line stuff lol. Now I'm trying to make good on it. Can I pull off the 45° angles at both ends of the drain line if it's a -12 AN line?
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Re: Julian's '91 200 20vt

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Connector in question:
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I pulled the trigger on the parts to try it out
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Re: Julian's '91 200 20vt

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Before I respond in detail, I need to slap you if you bought summit fittings.
-Chris

'91 Audi 200 20v - Revver/BAT project
'91 Audi 200 20v Avant
'01 Anthracite M5
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loxxrider wrote:Before I respond in detail, I need to slap you if you bought summit fittings.

Ive learned the hard way to use good fittings.
"If you can't find one, make one"

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Exactly :thumbsup:
-Chris

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Re: Julian's '91 200 20vt

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summit fittings=LOL. They snap very easily.

I just used a bunch of vibrant fittings to build the oil lines for my TDI holset car and found them to be good quality. The price was only marginally more than summit fittings.
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Re: Julian's '91 200 20vt

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Not only that, they don't seal well because the taper is wrong or out of spec.
-Chris

'91 Audi 200 20v - Revver/BAT project
'91 Audi 200 20v Avant
'01 Anthracite M5
'90 M3
'85 Euro 635csi
'12 X3
E34 530i (maybe rear-mount soon)
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FECK!

This is WHY we need post notification by email back! :hammer:
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Re: Julian's '91 200 20vt

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I literally messaged Summit Racing on eBay and told them I heard terrible things about their fittings and wanted to know if they would penalize me for cancelling the order :rofl:

No answer yet but I did buy the Vibrant fittings and they do look beefier at a glance
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one thing about summit is their customer service is very very good. I ordered a shitload of vibrant fittings, opened all the boxes, test fitted a bunch, picked the ones I liked best and sent the rest back. All orders come with a return sheet and pre-paid label IN THE BOX. You just check next to the part numbers you want to send back, put them back in the box, and drop it at the post office. No questions asked. Awesome.
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-mk4 tdi wagon with some mods
-TDI b3 90q, holset turbo, be strong little connecting rods!
-the turbo tractor
past:
-11 second 90q junker
-20vt swapped 90q winter beater
-efi 20vt 4kq
-way too many other long gone urs's, 200's 4000's, b5's
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Wow that's not something other places can say they do. At least they hassle over this (hopefully). I paid $29.** shipped for each one frim Vibrant. I do think I got boned on shipping for buying 2 of course. Dark forces at work when there's free shipping
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Jesus those guys must not check their ebay messages. They were shipped just now :roll:
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I ran a number of summit fittings and lines and never had an issue, the hose ends actually assembled better than the Earls I have on my B6 now. I think it's a step above ebay fittings. Having said that I did go for Earls this time around...

For the oil feed, look at pre assembled brake line, I have 2 sections with a male/male coupler, I think you can get them in -3 in addition to -4 and they're cheaper than buying fittings and hose, although length is a bit less custom.
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Thanks Shawn, glad to hear someone had success using them. I'll just return to sender when they arrive after the wallet bomb that the vibrant ones have become.
I sent them an ebay message asking where the ball went that they dropped lol. They had my message for about 6 hrs asking about canceling.
The feed was the only no-brainer in this whole endeavor actually. Found the line complete on ebay. On its way as of today. Went with the 24" line after measuring some things on the spare motor.

Got a good start tonight kinda
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Also a nod to Dave as the hybrid has absolutely zero play still. Even after the 100% DC beating it gets daily
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Summit first said I have to pay return shipping and then I asked about the return label I usually get and the guy seemed to agree about the label or something. It became obscure. The only reason I think they'll honor the free return shipment is because I said they have several hours to get my ebay message and yet they still shipped. Then I said I wasn't aware how little they check their inbox :foff:
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is there such a thing as a turbo coolant drain flange block off plate? Or go original with a rubber cap and hose clamp?
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Just plug it and the feed however you deem adequate.
-Chris

'91 Audi 200 20v - Revver/BAT project
'91 Audi 200 20v Avant
'01 Anthracite M5
'90 M3
'85 Euro 635csi
'12 X3
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Dirty sock it is.

I just learned that my passenger catalytic converter has been beaten to death by the launch control finally :-) absolutely no trace of it. I've probably been spitting platinum pieces out at people thatve been tailgate me this whole time. That makes LC that much more badass!
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It makes me feel much better that I'm matching the last one to the spec of the ruined one ;) What, it has to be done!

Cylinder 5 is the bad valve stem seal culprit it would appear also.
Anyone else feel like the bottom 8 exhaust manifold studs are over 3 feet long when you're removing them? :D
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As I'm waiting on parts I'm starting to break free the bolts for the turbo drain line flanges ar the block. Got the coolant one fine but the oil one us killing me. I had to drill a small hole in the flange leading to the bolt thread to spray PB into and that's where I've stopped. Nothing has rounded out yet but I'm feeling confident about the he head holding. I'd rather have a bolt on there. I have vise grips on it right now. It better come out one way or another!
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Re: Julian's '91 200 20vt

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Uber progress made. Everything is ready for installation. Coolant system has been sealed and filled and my female 1/2" npt oil flanged are going on tomorrow for when the oil drain line pieces arrive. Getting happy pants here
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Re: Julian's '91 200 20vt

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I'm excited for you. It's a fun setup you're going to have.
-Chris

'91 Audi 200 20v - Revver/BAT project
'91 Audi 200 20v Avant
'01 Anthracite M5
'90 M3
'85 Euro 635csi
'12 X3
E34 530i (maybe rear-mount soon)
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