01E throwout bearing in an 016?

[88a5tq]

Has anyone used the metal faced TO bearing for the 01E in their 016 equipped 200 20vt yet?

My plastic-faced TO bearing didn't fare too well even for only 20k miles of abuse. I got the 0B1 141 165 bearing from ECS for $15 and as I was installing it, one of the securing tabs broke off so they're sending another over. However, I just realized they could be drastically different by design. I thought I should post up the depth of the 01E bearing (1.329") vs the 016 bearing that 034 provided when I purchased my SB clutch from them for the 200 20v (1.302"). The 016 is obviously used but I measured at a point appearing to be unaffected by the wear pattern.

I don't have the 016 bearing's part number but I do have the 01E's which is Ss 01E 141 165 B. The p/n I have shown for both the mc and 3b motors for 1991 is 0B1 141 165 as per ETKA. I think its pretty up to date in terms of software??

The mc bearing is on the left and the 01E is on the right. The backing plate/sleeve is slightly different in depth also.

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Anyone used this 01E bearing successfully on the 3b with stock 016 trans yet?

[elaw]

Watching this with interest... you wouldn't think 0.007" would make a difference but who knows?

[yodasfro]

Looks like you have two different manufacturers TOB's there. One is metal faced or just has the plastic dust cover removed? FWIW the 016(torsen) and 01E/01A all use the same TOB pn# 012141165E old pn# superseded to 01E141165B 01E141165 01E141165D 0B1141165

[88a5tq]

Sweet thanks very much Austin! That is exactly what I was looking for

034 says run it and return if there's a problem. I didn't even buy it from them hahah! 034 has said this to me before I think also. "Yah let's see what happens lol"

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The metal faced one is made by hamburg-technic. The plastic one is sachs.

[88a5tq]

https://www.ecstuning.com/ES2813153/

[yodasfro]

FYI hamburg technic is a cheap Chinese junk brand.

[audifreakjim]

Not to confuse this any further, but didn't the 016 have different clutch forks for the torsen vs locker cars? The depth was different from what I recall. It may have been to due to different flywheels, but something to keep in mind. The TO bearing may or may not have been different.

[yodasfro]

Yes the locker 016 used different forks>TOB>slave cylinders and dished flywheels. The locker throw out bearing bear no resemblance to the torsen TOB and are also used on air cooled VW's.

[88a5tq]

Dammit! Hamburg my arse! Euphemism for some Chinese province no doubt

[88a5tq]

I called ecs and they're giving me the stock INA bearing at no charge since I'm waiting forever over here. I don't want to mess with this anymore I guess. Lots of other stuff to think about for the car. It's plastic faced on the INA but oh well.

[88a5tq]

Just got the new INA bearings and it's slightly deeper as a whole unit! I haven't measured yet but I'll see if the plastic face comes off at all first

[88a5tq]

INA:
Feels VERY heavy duty. Plastic face seems more dense than my original 034-provided sachs unit. I like
1.331" depth if you measure only to the inset face area for the PP fingers. Corrected depth from surface to fork retention surface is 1.015" as well.

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"Fingers" crossed

*Just a heads up, everytime I measure these I get different #'s haha. Oh well I changed them in the first post anyway