Turbo Inlet Piping Size

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dana
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Turbo Inlet Piping Size

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I am working on the charge piping for my TDI swap into my 90 quattro.
There is a LOT of piping crammed in one area. .

I am running 2" piping to and from the intercooler, but i am wondering if i need to run something larger from the turbo inlet to the stock audi airbox. Seems like 2.5" would be good, however 2" fits so much better.

Would 2" be to small on a stock turbo (tuned with injectors) TDI?
current:
-mk4 tdi wagon with some mods
-TDI b3 90q, holset turbo, be strong little connecting rods!
-the turbo tractor
past:
-11 second 90q junker
-20vt swapped 90q winter beater
-efi 20vt 4kq
-way too many other long gone urs's, 200's 4000's, b5's
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well after some internet sleuthing, I found this. http://www.dkgoodrich.com/pipingsize.htm

I figured a diesel 1.9 with a turbo @85% VE will be about 500 cfm at 5000 rpm. I dont rev to 5000 ever, and im not even sure it can do it on a stock (tuned) ecu. According to my internet research, this should be fine with 2". My mk4 tdi with a tune stops making power above 3500 anyway. All the meat is from 2000-3100.

The packaging is way better, so I am going to try and see what happens. I will add a little velocity stack where the pipe stubs into the airbox.
current:
-mk4 tdi wagon with some mods
-TDI b3 90q, holset turbo, be strong little connecting rods!
-the turbo tractor
past:
-11 second 90q junker
-20vt swapped 90q winter beater
-efi 20vt 4kq
-way too many other long gone urs's, 200's 4000's, b5's
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Turbo Inlet Piping Size

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2" is plenty for that motor. I was surprised by how small my 3.0 tdi piping was, it looks like 2"
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I agree, 2" will be fine. It looks kind of funny, we are used to seeing bigger is better on this kind of stuff. The problem is the airbox from the 7a that I want to retain faces backwards and has to so a full "s" turn to get to the turbo inlet. I cannot make that work with a 2.5" pipe without making it super ugly. The 2" bends do it just fine, and dont look half bad.
current:
-mk4 tdi wagon with some mods
-TDI b3 90q, holset turbo, be strong little connecting rods!
-the turbo tractor
past:
-11 second 90q junker
-20vt swapped 90q winter beater
-efi 20vt 4kq
-way too many other long gone urs's, 200's 4000's, b5's
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The new 991 Turbo uses 2" intercooler plumbing and 1.25" exhaust primaries. It is fast as shit and ultra responsive. Little pipework is not a problem.

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Velocity!
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well, its built, 2" all the way. ill grab some pics when my paint comes in to cover my shatty welds. :lol:
current:
-mk4 tdi wagon with some mods
-TDI b3 90q, holset turbo, be strong little connecting rods!
-the turbo tractor
past:
-11 second 90q junker
-20vt swapped 90q winter beater
-efi 20vt 4kq
-way too many other long gone urs's, 200's 4000's, b5's
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My lovely ghetto-fabbed turbo feed pipe in 2"

cannibalizing plate from an old winch mount
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cheapo motorcycle velocity stack
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it ties into the factory tdi inlet pipe that I cut down with a 2" hump hose
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current:
-mk4 tdi wagon with some mods
-TDI b3 90q, holset turbo, be strong little connecting rods!
-the turbo tractor
past:
-11 second 90q junker
-20vt swapped 90q winter beater
-efi 20vt 4kq
-way too many other long gone urs's, 200's 4000's, b5's
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Nicely done! Looks good and should function well!
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fits pretty damn well
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yes, 2" is sweet to work with. The piping has to do all kinds of twists and turns to fit with the intercooler mounted up high (out of snow bank impact range). The 2" stuff makes it easy to fit it all in there.
current:
-mk4 tdi wagon with some mods
-TDI b3 90q, holset turbo, be strong little connecting rods!
-the turbo tractor
past:
-11 second 90q junker
-20vt swapped 90q winter beater
-efi 20vt 4kq
-way too many other long gone urs's, 200's 4000's, b5's
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Mines a mix o 2-1/4 and 2-1/5.
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