91 200 20vt 870CC, Holset, VEMS, SHES ALIVE....AGAIN!

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iammrfancypants

Re: 91 200 20vt Holset H1C/630cc/blah blah blah

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About god damn time I made some actual progress on this thing!

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Urs4 hubs on my 200 20v uprights. Modded for b5 s4 brakes and also modded for coilovers. Finally done!!!! Now I can start to do some actual work on the 200 project. Can't wait for it to be done. Excited.

Oh and now I can pull off my UFO housing for Ron after a few months. Also what injectors did you want 3b, right?
iammrfancypants

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Coilovers done and installed.
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Oh and some HP2 calipers with EBC green and ECS tuning drilled/slotted rotors with SS braided hoses.
death 4kqt

Re: 91 200 20vt Holset H1C/630cc/blah blah blah

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i consider myself a project car warrior, but you sir are a BEAST.
iammrfancypants

Re: 91 200 20vt Holset H1C/630cc/blah blah blah

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Shes on the ground on her own weight! Yayy loving the coilovers on the front, now to install my rear coilovers and brakes. Loving these 18" C6 A6 4.2 wheels now that it's lowered. Really looks sharp. Need to strip and respray them though.

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iammrfancypants

Re: 91 200 20vt Holset H1C/630cc/blah blah blah

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Sooooo I was getting bored while working on my 200's rear suspension brakes and this happened.....

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Do not know if anyone has done this before but you can use 034's adapters http://store.034motorsport.com/caliper- ... grade.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; made for b5 s4 (also allroad/c5 s6/c5 4.2) calipers and b7 s4 300MM brake rotors on your 200 20v (i'd assume 200 20v) too. So if anyone else knew about this cool, but as far I know I have not seen a single rear brake upgrade. I was pretty excited when the adapters bolted up.

You need to trim the rear spindle to allow the lower adapter bolt to be threaded in but nothing major (around 1/4 inch).

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Also it looks like you can utilize the stock e-brake cable. I ordered new ones I will hook up when they come in.

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Re: 91 200 20vt rear big brake kit and coilovers in the work

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It looks like the caliper is a little too far out from the rotor radius. Have you put some pads on to see where they sit?

This is an awesome find!
Casey O

Current Attire:
- 2007 Audi A3 3.2 quattro

Past Projects:
- 07 Cooper S - 91 200 20vt - 91 90 20v - 85 4000CS - 96 Audi Cabriolet 5 Spd - 02 A4 1.8T - 91 V8 5 Spd - 01 A6 2.7T 6 Spd Sport - 86 5000CS - 91 100
Ronald G Wainwright+

Re: 91 200 20vt rear big brake kit and coilovers in the work

Post by Ronald G Wainwright+ »

I've been told u can use B5 S4 stock rotor and calipers or,
A8/S8 caliprs needs a spacer made for the S8 280mm rotors. You flip the calipers R to L for both scenarios.
This might help....
http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthrea ... brake-swap

No sense to use a 300mm rotor if ur not using them to there potential. Personally I'm just going to bolt a Porsche caliper for the rears with a bracket to bolt the caliper to the housing. Then just remove them when I gotta get the car inspected every year.
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Re: 91 200 20vt rear big brake kit and coilovers in the work

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WOMBAT wrote:It looks like the caliper is a little too far out from the rotor radius. Have you put some pads on to see where they sit?

This is an awesome find!


2nd, need pics with a pad. If the friction material hangs off the edge of the rotor that's a big no no, not to mention reducing swept area dramatically, AND not taking full advantage of the slots gas venting purpose by blocking one end.
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2003 540i/6 #1090/1265 imported M5 diff+Sway, Powerflex bushings, BC Racing coils
1991 200 20v Avant MRC Tune + Bilsteins... more to come.
2001 330Ci Convertible -Fiance Mobile
iammrfancypants

Re: 91 200 20vt rear big brake kit and coilovers in the work

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WOMBAT wrote:It looks like the caliper is a little too far out from the rotor radius. Have you put some pads on to see where they sit?

This is an awesome find!


Yeah it does sit out too far (at also isnt flush with the hub in the pics) but I have been talking to nick about using different carriers to get this to work. Going to try and use B5 A4 carriers with these and it should allow the caliper to mount better on the rotor.
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Re: 91 200 20vt rear big brake kit and coilovers in the work

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Oh, so which calipers and carriers are bolted up in that pic? There is still hope... 8)
Casey O

Current Attire:
- 2007 Audi A3 3.2 quattro

Past Projects:
- 07 Cooper S - 91 200 20vt - 91 90 20v - 85 4000CS - 96 Audi Cabriolet 5 Spd - 02 A4 1.8T - 91 V8 5 Spd - 01 A6 2.7T 6 Spd Sport - 86 5000CS - 91 100
iammrfancypants

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Those are A6 4.2 calipers and carriers
iammrfancypants

Re: 91 200 20vt rear big brake kit and coilovers in the work

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B5 S4 carriers with 034 adapter kit and b7 s4 300mm rear rotors. Perfect fit. Probably going to use stock 200 20v calipers instead of the a6 4.2 as the piston size is the same and I have lines that work and stock ebrake will work fine.

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A6 calipers on for testing since I had them.
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Rear suspension done (no rotor installed so it's sunk in)
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Re: 91 200 20vt rear big brake kit and coilovers in the work

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:woowoo:
Nick

'00 A4 1.8t
'91 200 20v
'91 200 20v Avant
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Re: 91 200 20vt rear big brake kit and coilovers in the work

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Hell yes good find!!!
Casey O

Current Attire:
- 2007 Audi A3 3.2 quattro

Past Projects:
- 07 Cooper S - 91 200 20vt - 91 90 20v - 85 4000CS - 96 Audi Cabriolet 5 Spd - 02 A4 1.8T - 91 V8 5 Spd - 01 A6 2.7T 6 Spd Sport - 86 5000CS - 91 100
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Re: 91 200 20vt rear big brake kit and coilovers in the work

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Awesome, so stock caliper, b5 s4 carrier bracket, 034 spacer, b7 s4 rotor? Good stuff!
http://www.ExceleratePerformance.com

2003 540i/6 #1090/1265 imported M5 diff+Sway, Powerflex bushings, BC Racing coils
1991 200 20v Avant MRC Tune + Bilsteins... more to come.
2001 330Ci Convertible -Fiance Mobile
iammrfancypants

Re: 91 200 20vt rear big brake kit and coilovers in the work

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Correct that is what I am using. Works great and I already had the 034 spacer and b7 s4 rotor thats the main reason why I did it. Had it from my B5 V8 project.
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Re: 91 200 20vt rear big brake kit and coilovers in the work

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What are you using for brake lines?
Casey O

Current Attire:
- 2007 Audi A3 3.2 quattro

Past Projects:
- 07 Cooper S - 91 200 20vt - 91 90 20v - 85 4000CS - 96 Audi Cabriolet 5 Spd - 02 A4 1.8T - 91 V8 5 Spd - 01 A6 2.7T 6 Spd Sport - 86 5000CS - 91 100
iammrfancypants

Re: 91 200 20vt rear big brake kit and coilovers in the work

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Oem but ss braided from ecs
iammrfancypants

Re: 91 200 20vt rear big brake kit and coilovers in the work

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Valve cover back from Tim. Wrinkle black and 2 10AN bungs welded on.

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PnP VEMS ECU came in with the harness to run the GM LS2 coils.

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iammrfancypants

Re: 91 200 20vt rear big brake kit and coilovers in the work

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Rears done finally. Just need to bleed the brakes (waiting on fluid to order).

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And what is this bracket for? Looks like a power steering res. bracket but never used before. I'm going to hack it off the mount my coil bracket just before I do want to make sure it's nothing I'd ever want.

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Re: 91 200 20vt rear big brake kit and coilovers in the work

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That bracket holds the Windshield washer res on 5000's. And I believe it held the extra reservoir for the 200's that came with the crazy strong windshield washer fluid add on.
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iammrfancypants

Re: 91 200 20vt rear big brake kit and coilovers in the work

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Timing help please. Anyone see any issues with this timing? My adjustable cam sprocket moved slightly retarded to have it set good. Also is the distributor pointed correctly? Could not get a good photo of the timing chain sprocket timing but I think you can see it fairly well. Please reply if it is good, or bad.

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Re: 91 200 20vt TIMING HELP PLEASE!

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All your marks look correct. Only thing that is off is your adjustment on the cam pulley.
Austin 90' 90q 20v 91' 200 20v wagon 92' urs4
iammrfancypants

Re: 91 200 20vt TIMING HELP PLEASE!

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Yeah the bolts on it are loose and it went to that when I slipped the belt on. That's as simple as just adjusting it to zero again correct? Thank you also.
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Re: 91 200 20vt TIMING HELP PLEASE!

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Yes take belt off adjust to zero put belt back on. I would loctite the bolts the on cam pulley and torque them to they're required spec.
Austin 90' 90q 20v 91' 200 20v wagon 92' urs4
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