AngryTaco wrote:To my knowledge the only difference between the B2/B3 and B4 is the bolt size which can be easily fixed with a drill press and proper sleeve (which will be done by me before shipping out to you).
As far as the late B4/B5, I'm not sure. I have a buddy with a sub-frame I may be able to borrow some bushings from. That or I'll just order one and use it's dimensions. Perhaps someone else can chime in with the B4/B5 specs of the rear?
Ok, count me in for at least one set for the front. If we can figure out the rears I'm in for both.
AngryTaco wrote:To my knowledge the only difference between the B2/B3 and B4 is the bolt size which can be easily fixed with a drill press and proper sleeve (which will be done by me before shipping out to you).
As far as the late B4/B5, I'm not sure. I have a buddy with a sub-frame I may be able to borrow some bushings from. That or I'll just order one and use it's dimensions. Perhaps someone else can chime in with the B4/B5 specs of the rear?
I mean to copy the ones you buy. Instead of extracting from a dirty old subframe and hoping they dont explode... I dont know where youre getting the ripping off part from?
glibobbo21 wrote:I mean to copy the ones you buy. Instead of extracting from a dirty old subframe and hoping they dont explode... I dont know where youre getting the ripping off part from?
Sorry I read your post wrong. At first I thought you were saying I was copying someone elses design as a picture of superflex's bushings was posted. I already have the dimensions needed and a CAD drawing sent to the manufacturer. The only thing I'm going to change is the OD (the insert OD) and have them add another .002" over the aluminum specs for perfect centering and snug fit
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I see the computer simulation of the mount - top and bottom piece with a bushing. How are these going to be held captive to the subframe? Big metal washer top and bottom, or is the poly rigid enough so that it won't want to separate from the subframe?
Peters wrote:I see the computer simulation of the mount - top and bottom piece with a bushing. How are these going to be held captive to the subframe? Big metal washer top and bottom, or is the poly rigid enough so that it won't want to separate from the subframe?
They will be held in with a washer and the subframe bolt. I havent figured out if I should put a washer in between the chassis and bushing yet though. Most other bushings dont when used in the same application due to very negligible movement. They will have a snug fit like the rear T44 bushings so you can get a really accurate alignment
1986 4000cs Turbo Quattro 2001 Dodge Dakota R/T Standard Cab 1990 V8 quattro 1995 urS6
-Hersh Performance and Racing Products- Most orders are being refused until further notice. Please PM
Nothing I'm manufacturing, but a thought I have had. It sounds much more official if I say 'Patent Pending' when I throw out my idea.
That said, I'm not sure it would be successful, as there needs to be something solid to contact the chassis. With a sleeve, it is effectively the same design, just with a different material on the lower half. I personally am going to give the aluminum 'bushings' a chance with fresh suspension components all around this spring and see how it goes.
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90 Coupe Quattro - 3b + 01e 87 4000 - future trail rig 00 a6 2.7t 6speed - winter beater
current: -mk4 tdi wagon with some mods -TDI b3 90q, holset turbo, be strong little connecting rods! -the turbo tractor past: -11 second 90q junker -20vt swapped 90q winter beater -efi 20vt 4kq -way too many other long gone urs's, 200's 4000's, b5's
AngryTaco wrote:I need 16 more committed subframes. I have advertisements on Audifans and quattroworld I think. Spread the word!
not willing to front any of the money yourself? Not trying to be a dick, just asking. Its not a ton of money, and it seems like they would sell.
current: -mk4 tdi wagon with some mods -TDI b3 90q, holset turbo, be strong little connecting rods! -the turbo tractor past: -11 second 90q junker -20vt swapped 90q winter beater -efi 20vt 4kq -way too many other long gone urs's, 200's 4000's, b5's
I dont have $3000 laying around to risk on a crapshoot investment. A lot of companies do new products this way too and it seems to work for them. I'm simply following suit. I sat around for about 30 minutes coming up with a viable formula for me to break even on the first run including the tooling costs. These are having molds made, these arent being machined, which is why I am able to keep the retail value down on these. If they were individually machined, imagine my retail being about $150-175 per set, but there would also be no tooling costs. Nobody would buy them for that price, including myself. I am literally making $10 on the first 30 subframe sets sold. The same goes for the T44 bushings. Being in school doesnt exactly help either since I need to conserve too. Believe me, if I had the capital, I'd already have 10 sets in my hands ready to go.
Without going further into detail on what my costs are, as of right now I simply could not afford an additional 16 sets on my own. However, I can cover 5 if we get another 9 on board. I do have advertisements out trying to get people on board.
Since I cant exactly show off my products on the most popular US forum (mg being my guess), advertising can get tricky.
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