Derracuda's Project Alpine 4kq *Comatose*

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derracuda

Post by derracuda »

ShavedQuattro wrote:Aw, yes, that is the deal. Yeah, mine are for the VW application. They are pretty darn thick. Anything is possible though I suppose. I wish I would have put more caster into mine. At the very most forward possition, I am at stock camber(or 0) so I think i only get about 4 degrees with the camber plates right?



with the setup you have, i don't think you could get more than about 2...maybe 3 degrees of castor. my upper strut mounting points are now 2.5" further back than factory and i'm at about 6 degrees ... and that's about stock on an E30.
mdg3369

Post by mdg3369 »

What engine is that Derek? Your valve covers look different than mine....
derracuda

Post by derracuda »

mdg3369 wrote:What engine is that Derek? Your valve covers look different than mine....


that's because you're missing 8 valves my friend :)
WAUG0806

Post by WAUG0806 »

derracuda wrote:my friend :)


:P :cheers: everybody drink!
derracuda

Post by derracuda »

what? mike's my friend, isn't he :?
Matt

Post by Matt »

needs R8 intake manifold!!!!

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derracuda

Post by derracuda »

strut time


i bought Koni 8611 dual adjust struts (yes, rebound like the standard yellows, AND compression 8) ) so i can have a little more tunability in my car's reactions. i didn't buy the correct length units though.. on purpose. i bought the shortest ones that would fit in my strut housings so that with all the lowering going on, the struts wouldn't be closer to bottoming out instead of the middle of their travel range like they should be.


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2 5/8" need to be taken out of the strut tubes for proper fitment of these new struts.
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the smaller sleeve goes inside for strength and alignment of the strut housing
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then slide together
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ahh, just the right length
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then drill the bottom for access to the compression adjuster
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ready for welding. i drilled holes for spot welding the tubes to hold them in place, then seam welded them
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here you can see the sleeve inside
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starting assembly..
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mounted up in the plates
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they will make the car sit low... real low
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here's the wheel at full droop :P
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it's a little bit hard to tell, but it's about 2" + higher than the rear wheel at full droop (rear is still stock)
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the compression adjuster in the hole
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i may have to rebuild the subframe again to give a little more height in the inner control arm mount points.
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the rear will be getting the same treatment once i get the steering arms finished up front and probably axles. *sigh* so much work left to do....
mdg3369

Post by mdg3369 »

How low will you go?

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(That's stock by the way)
derracuda

Post by derracuda »

what is that, a pontiac solstice??

looks a little lower than stock to me..

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mdg3369

Post by mdg3369 »

derracuda wrote:what is that, a pontiac solstice??

looks a little lower than stock to me..


With the optional suspension, and I'm assuming it has shorter tires too, but who knows. You're really going all out with this eh? It's moving along quite nicely!
thegetawaycar

layin frame!

Post by thegetawaycar »

maybe this low?
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(i apologize for the crappy mobile pic, saw it on campus and couldnt resist.)
apavlov13

Post by apavlov13 »

Derek, are you still going to use the Porsche wheels?
derracuda

Post by derracuda »

apavlov13 wrote:Derek, are you still going to use the Porsche wheels?


we'll see....
Lt. Sarge

Re: layin frame!

Post by Lt. Sarge »

thegetawaycar wrote:Image


Derek, if you get it that low you and Trevor could be best friends! Imagine all the not driving it you could do!
derracuda

Post by derracuda »

:lol: i could lay unibody!!! *sparkshowers*
a_CQ

Post by a_CQ »

Derek...few questions...

1/Why did you orient those camber plates that way? Are you planing on keeping the constant camber and adjusting the castor?

2/Bottom adjuster on the shock - can you switch to a allen-type screw there? the reason is when you install your axles and CV boots, it will be very hard to slide a flat head, even a stubby, in there to adjust.

3/What is the total travel differential between that shock and say standard Koni application for these cars? I don't know if you mentioned this before too, but what Koni shock is that(the short one)?

I've contemplated about doing similar for my car. Finding a shock that's similar in dimensions and double adjustable and then just making it fit my strut housing...It takes some time to do it though...
derracuda

Post by derracuda »

a_CQ wrote:Derek...few questions...

1/Why did you orient those camber plates that way? Are you planing on keeping the constant camber and adjusting the castor?

2/Bottom adjuster on the shock - can you switch to a allen-type screw there? the reason is when you install your axles and CV boots, it will be very hard to slide a flat head, even a stubby, in there to adjust.

3/What is the total travel differential between that shock and say standard Koni application for these cars? I don't know if you mentioned this before too, but what Koni shock is that(the short one)?

I've contemplated about doing similar for my car. Finding a shock that's similar in dimensions and double adjustable and then just making it fit my strut housing...It takes some time to do it though...



#1. i don't want to set crazy camber. i'm more interested in dialing in the castor and centering the wheel in the wheel well for proper functionality. right now i get about 1 degree of negative camber(on the outside wheel) when i turn. stock is 0... and actually dips into the positive once the car rolls over a bit on it's side.

#2. i'm going to find a insert bit for a screw gun or whatever and make a little handle for it. i had no choice in the adjuster spec.

#3. i did say they are 8611 models, and there are several length/diameter choices to make. you can find them on summit's website, or go straight to koni's site and find all the dimensions on the struts you need :)
derracuda

Post by derracuda »

yes... one more piece of the puzzle fitted in place..


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Hank
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Post by Hank »

Ohhhhh.. IIc for the V8!!!! I hope that the ECU see's double duty in the other 4ktq!!! Very cool man. I love the Firewall connector too. Very nice. I wanna rewire my coupe soo bad. That poor harness has been through 2 cars and 3 different engines.

Did you mount your ECU like that so you could easily share the ECU?
I think I like my ECU mounting more. I am not taking credit for it.. Sean ( QuattroV1.0 did mine). It is pretty trick. It is behind the glovebox, but it has the LED part cutout... It would be hard to share ECU's with it like I have it.. But I like it.
RSCoupe
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Post by RSCoupe »

Derek, were did you get your bulkhead connectors?
I hope the split wire loom is just temporary...
Mark Siggelkow
'90 CQ-R - NASA GTS-4
'12 TT-RS (Wife's DD)
'00 A4 1.8TQ (My DD)
'62 356B (vintage racer)
'07 Toyota Tundra CrewMax (for towing/hauling)
derracuda

Post by derracuda »

right now, the ECU will have only one function... making the alpine car run. the 20vt zermatt car will be getting an AAN conversion with 034's 3071 chipset, so no need for tuning on it :)

i did the harness this way so that it's easy to undo either half of the harness. if i want to remove the engine, one plug for pretty much everything. after working on the newer audi's that have fairly simplified harnesses, i've made a goal of modelling this build after that.


as for the split loom... eh, it's just under the dash. i won't us it in the engine bay though, it sucks once it's gotten hot :P

i got the amp connector at a local electronics store in the clearance bin for $1... the only one! but then i had to spend $20 in pin :P yikes!
cuatrokoop
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Post by cuatrokoop »

Mark,

There are places like Allied Electronics and Newark that carry those bulk head connectors. Also a more obscure one that has Mil-Spec stuff is TT Electronics.

http://www.alliedelec.com/Circular-Conn ... e=2314&M=1

That should take you to a page that you can select how many contacts you need in your circular connector.
RSCoupe
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Post by RSCoupe »

Yeah, yeah, Nate, I know you guys have them. :wink:
I was just curious where he got them, as they looked different.

Thanks Koop, I was looking for a place that had metal/MIL Spec connectors. I'm worried about the durability of the plastic ones.
Mark Siggelkow
'90 CQ-R - NASA GTS-4
'12 TT-RS (Wife's DD)
'00 A4 1.8TQ (My DD)
'62 356B (vintage racer)
'07 Toyota Tundra CrewMax (for towing/hauling)
derracuda

Post by derracuda »

RSCoupe wrote:Yeah, yeah, Nate, I know you guys have them. :wink:
I was just curious where he got them, as they looked different.

Thanks Koop, I was looking for a place that had metal/MIL Spec connectors. I'm worried about the durability of the plastic ones.



in defense of the plastic ones, bmw has been using them for 20+ years and at least IME, we've never had to repair one from breaking.
Hank
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Post by Hank »

Do you run the VR sensor in the bulk head? Any problems with interference?
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