Aarons Drag CQ: 3-29 anodized and welded stuff. AN lines

secretagentman · Post by **secretagentman** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:12 pm

:woowoo: impressive

speeding-g60 · Post by **speeding-g60** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:50 pm

secretagentman wrote::woowoo: impressive

you do know that it is a 4cyl, right?

loxxrider · Post by **loxxrider** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:57 pm

Yeah thats super impressive. Cant WAIT to see how she runs.

hypothetical · Post by **hypothetical** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:00 pm

That is a nice broad torque band... Damn. Was that on the 3652s they seem to give up a little early.

secretagentman · Post by **secretagentman** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:01 pm

speeding-g60 wrote:
secretagentman wrote::woowoo: impressive

you do know that it is a 4cyl, right?

yes.

speeding-g60 · Post by **speeding-g60** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:02 pm

ya that was '52s.... we pulled the run @ 7800.... thats what Kevin wanted, 4k - 7800, so thats what we pulled.

hypothetical · Post by **hypothetical** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:09 pm

No worries man, It's an awesome line. You should be ripping it with a spread like that. 2010 is gonna be your year.

speeding-g60 · Post by **speeding-g60** » Tue Dec 29, 2009 3:10 pm

bored as hell here. nothing to do, so i guess i just change stuff.

all 1/4" OD SS hardlines. looks neato to me. all perfeshinull and stuffs.

Hybrid_Hatch · Post by **Hybrid_Hatch** » Tue Dec 29, 2009 4:20 pm

Very cool, is that blood in the last picture? Blood means you're doing it right

Mcstiff · Post by **Mcstiff** » Tue Dec 29, 2009 5:17 pm

Looks like silver over red paint.

death 4kqt · Post by **death 4kqt** » Tue Dec 29, 2009 6:44 pm

are those swagelok fittings? I see thousands of those sitting in the scrap dumpsters at the ibm plant where I work. Always wanted to salvage that stuff for cool automotive use. Looks nice.

speeding-g60 · Post by **speeding-g60** » Tue Dec 29, 2009 6:48 pm

yes, Swagelok and Parker A-lok. those two are inter-compatible, and Parker are less expensive. i was originally going to run my rabbit fueling with 0.500" SS tubing....

they are BUCKS, too.

if you get them from the scrap, you can just buy new ferrules and you are good to go. those Tee's were over $22 apiece. we sometimes get them from the local scrap places here, too.

and no blood Dave. its silver/red paint....

SilverCQ · Post by **SilverCQ** » Tue Dec 29, 2009 7:08 pm

sweet...stainless tubing looks tits

speeding-g60 · Post by **speeding-g60** » Tue Dec 29, 2009 7:11 pm

i like tits better though, but it does look pretty neat

derracuda · Post by **derracuda** » Tue Dec 29, 2009 7:33 pm

veddy nice

speeding-g60 · Post by **speeding-g60** » Tue Dec 29, 2009 7:35 pm

repomanpro · Post by **repomanpro** » Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:22 pm

Hey Aaron whats the part number on that diverter valve?

death 4kqt · Post by **death 4kqt** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 6:10 am

speeding-g60 wrote:if you get them from the scrap, you can just buy new ferrules and you are good to go. those Tee's were over $22 apiece. we sometimes get them from the local scrap places here, too.

and no blood Dave. its silver/red paint....

Its pretty hard to scavenge here, I'm an engineering contractor here and already hated by the IBM employees. They have a strict policy of no scrap can be removed from the site unless you are the scrap removal contractor. Its painfull because there is stainless tubing of every shape and size (up to 10" diameter), tons of nice stainless flex bellows, weld el, etc. And it all goes to scrap when a new tool comes in :frustrated:

speeding-g60 · Post by **speeding-g60** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 6:13 am

diverter valve? i dont have one of those....

if you mean the boost control valve, i get it from Kevin. i will ask him when next we speak.....

speeding-g60 · Post by **speeding-g60** » Sun Jan 10, 2010 8:16 pm

i did some things.

i checked on the head, not done yet :(

i swapped water pump housings, put in a t-stat. will try that route, faster warm up time. it takes about 18 minutes from cold (in summer ambient 80 degrees?) to operating temperature for warmup.

i also changed one ss line, i didnt like the way it looked.

and drained the rear diff. which reminds me i gotta fill that thing again.

quattro87 · Post by **quattro87** » Sun Jan 10, 2010 8:49 pm

speeding-g60 wrote:yes, Swagelok and Parker A-lok. those two are inter-compatible, and Parker are less expensive. i was originally going to run my rabbit fueling with 0.500" SS tubing....

they are BUCKS, too.

if you get them from the scrap, you can just buy new ferrules and you are good to go. those Tee's were over $22 apiece. we sometimes get them from the local scrap places here, too.

and no blood Dave. its silver/red paint....

It's easy to see the people that are exposed to an industrial setting. We use Swagelok and stainless for just about everything in I&E control work in the power industry. I've thought quite often of using hard tubing for the fuel lines and especially for E85 use. It really makes a guy sick to see all the high dollar waste that gets thrown out as systems are deleted/upgraded and new tubing is run. I came home from work just last week having to lean forward some in the driver's seat because I had stuffed a bunch of old throw away 1/4" tubing into the back of the daughter's beetle and it was crowding me some. LOL

My experience has taught me not to mix and match Swagelok and Parker. I know that they are supposed to be compatible, but I can't tell you how many times I have seen leaks by doing so, especially in high pressure hydraulic use. (>2000psi) I think that part of the problem is over tightening to begin with. Everyones tendency is that if tight is good, tighter surely is better which isn't the case with Swagelok. They can be reused as far as off and on indefinitely if they aren't overtightened or the stainless isn't allowed to gall. We try to stay strictly Swagelok here, but have some of the original systems that were installed with Parker, so at that point we either change out completely or try not to mix.

By the way.....Looking good!!

speeding-g60 · Post by **speeding-g60** » Sun Jan 10, 2010 9:57 pm

thanks

and yeah... the Swagelok have a 2 part ferrule and the Parker has a single. the compatibility issues arise from threads not matching, etc, between brands. but these two are interchangeable.

typically i do steam and hot oil trace lines, and instrumentation with the tubing.

and yes, people do tend to think tighter is better. but not so much of the time.

and it is funny, just use the fitting bodies, buy some new ferrules, and cut the tubing to scavenge the nuts. then you are in it pennies on the dollar, if so much. tubing is cheap as well.

Rocco16V · Post by **Rocco16V** » Sun Jan 10, 2010 10:13 pm

speeding-g60 wrote:i stopped by and got the dyno's from the last session.... run 18, 3rd gear. 7700 rpm. from ~5800 til end i was >500 AWHP with a peak of 559. and from 6800 to 7700 it was >550 AWHP. and torque peaked @ 456 wtq right around 6k .

>500AWHP from a little 4 cyl! :woowoo: :drool:

85oceanic · Post by **85oceanic** » Sun Jan 10, 2010 10:27 pm

Rocco16V wrote:
speeding-g60 wrote:i stopped by and got the dyno's from the last session.... run 18, 3rd gear. 7700 rpm. from ~5800 til end i was >500 AWHP with a peak of 559. and from 6800 to 7700 it was >550 AWHP. and torque peaked @ 456 wtq right around 6k .

>500AWHP from a little 4 cyl! :woowoo:

I totally agree!!! WOO HOO!!!!

speeding-g60 · Post by **speeding-g60** » Sun Jan 10, 2010 10:56 pm

Rocco16V wrote:
speeding-g60 wrote:i stopped by and got the dyno's from the last session.... run 18, 3rd gear. 7700 rpm. from ~5800 til end i was >500 AWHP with a peak of 559. and from 6800 to 7700 it was >550 AWHP. and torque peaked @ 456 wtq right around 6k .

>500AWHP from a little 4 cyl! :woowoo:

well, the first time i ran it, it made 592 AWHP while it lifted the head @ 45psi boost spike

and thats only to 7krpm or so. normal running on that motor (with less boost of course) is 8500 rpm.

and that was on a smallport head with port work done, and 82mm pistons with 4 broken wristpins.

the new motor was those numbers, it is largeport head with no work and 83mm pistons.